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The BA mid season Top 100 Prospect list just came out –
#8 – Walker
#36 – Liberatore
#67 – Winn
#75 – Burleson
#76 – Graceffo
#90 – Herrera
#95 – HenceHave you ever seen 7 Cardinals on a Top 100 list?
That 2020 draft was one for the ages, Walker, Winn, Burleson, and Hence, all in the Top 100, plus up-and-coming LJ Jones, and the still promising (IMHO) Ian Bedell.
Maybe around 2012 or 2013 the Cards had something similar? But not any other time that I can think of in recent memory. Not only that, but several of those guys have some helium and could be a fair bit higher by the spring.
Great to see that, thanks for sharing. Why are they limiting Hence so much? Even ramping up 5-10 pitches per outing would seem to be a normal “ramp up”.
bccran asked:
Have you ever seen 7 Cardinals on a Top 100 list?
Yes.
I don’t track in-season changes but in the off-season rankings, the most recent time was 2018 when John Sickels had seven Cards in the top 100 and nine in his top 104.
26 Alex Reyes
50 Jack Flaherty
71 Carson Kelly
85 Andrew Knizner
92 Harrison Bader
97 Tyler O’Neill
99 Adolis Garcia102 Yairo Munoz
104 Dakota HudsonI’ll bet a lot of Card fans were excited about that ’18 list. Only Knizner is on our active list now. Not very surprising to me as. Let’s see how our ’22 prospects turn out four years from now. I’ll get back here in ’26 to go over the ’22 list.
How many do you feel will still be on the Card’s active list 7/12/26?
Really hard to predict injuries, but we should also keep in mind that trades of prospects can help the team in other ways. For example, having Goldy over Kelly (plus others) looks pretty good…
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I’ll bet a lot of Card fans were excited about that ’18 list. Only Knizner is on our active list now. Not very surprising to me as. Let’s see how our ’22 prospects turn out four years from now. I’ll get back here in ’26 to go over the ’22 list.
How many do you feel will still be on the Card’s active list 7/12/26?
Of course, Hudson was 104, while O’Neill, Bader, Reyes, and Flaherty are injured.
Go look at our pre-2018 top 50 list. It is stacked with MLers. I think I counted something like 20-30 that became more than cup of coffee players. It was a crazy deep and talented prospect list.
The top 15 all became productive major leaguers (other than Knizner maybe) Then, other than Delvin Perez, everyone in the top 30 or so also are in the majors.
Beyond the top 15 and traded guys like Gallen, Alcantara, Arozarena, and Gomber, we had guys like Carlson, Edman, Voit, Oviedo, Wisdom, Wick, and Woodford.
McGreevy isn’t even on the new list, and at this point I’d definitely rank GG ahead of him but I do think McGreevy could turn into a very nice mid rotation guy. Maybe a rich mans Hudson? Aka Hudson is Pizza Hut and McGreevy is Lou Malnatis. Gallen and Alcantara turned into Pequads deep dish.
Heres how players in the 2018 ranking were acquired compared to how players in the 2022 ranking were acquired. Wouldn’t that be something if they could pull off another draft like that 2020 draft!
2018 top 100
Reyes – signed as free agent in 2012
Flaherty – 2014 draft
Carson Kelly – 2012 draft
Knizner – 2016 draft
Bader – 2015 draft
O’Neill – acquired by trade in 2017
Adolis Garcia – signed as free agent in 20172022 Top 100
Walker – 2020 draft
Liberatore – acquired by trade in 2020
Winn – 2020 draft
Burleson – 2020 draft
Graceffo – 2021 draft
Herrera – signed as free agent in 2018
Hence – 2020 draft2020 draft (players not yet ranked)
LJ Jones – 2020 draft (Looks like LJ is up and coming.)
Ian Bedell – 2020 draft (https://www.prospectslive.com/scoutingreports/ian-bedell)Interesting that prospects like Donovan, Gorman, and Yepez have graduated, but yet are valuable young players who would all be top 100s if eligible.
New top 100 prospects is out:
Pretty si,Olaf to last list. Although thought Graceffo may have dropped off the current list, but I honestly think he may be tiring after 100 plus innings and jumping all the way to AA.
7 Walker
62 Winn
63 Hence
72 Burleson
73 Graceffo
79 Liberatore
93 HerreraThanks for sharing, C27. Compared to last month, a big jump up for Hence and corresponding big fall for Liberatore.
I don’t disagree with the guys on the list, but the order I’m not sold on. I’d have Herrera right around Winn.
I agree BB. He’s putting up video game numbers, but how/why he hasn’t ramped up a bit more by August 9th is confusing, and I’ve yet to find an answer.
I’ve heard a lot of people predict good things for LJ Jones. The stats aren’t that great. What am I missing? To me, the best indicator that a guy is going to “take off” is a good bb/k ratio and that isn’t great. Nor is he “big” as he is listed at just 6’0″. I know he missed time in college due to injury. Hoping you guys are seeing something firsthand.
Others who see big things will have to speak for themselves, but Jones fell off our Cardinals Top 50 last season.
Jones was raved about by his college coach. He’s one of those dark horses who’s hitting either #3 or #4 in one of the full season lineups.
I don’t understand why Hence hasn’t been allowed to ramp up to a higher pitch count? I have read where he has a very high swing and miss rate in all of the low minors.
By now, he should have had his endurance tested. If and when he pitches more to weak contact, he could be an electric starter. Also, it’s a shame he can’t be seen on Milbtv, as Palm Beach doesn’t have video broadcasts.Out of curiosity, I wonder what his ETA might be at best? Late 2024?
I went to a Peoria game a couple of weeks ago. Jones is not very tall but he has a big build. Very solid base and the ball comes off his bat a little harder than most of the A+ hitters. I wasn’t completely impressed but he looked to have the best chance to get to the majors of the Peoria players.
As a side note, Robert Hassell (top 50 MLB prospect) played for Fort Wayne in that game. He did not impress me all that much. He must be one the people who make the game look easy and is smooth in his play. Nothing he did stood out.
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