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This thread of 25 posts (now 26) has almost no discussion about actual trade chips. It is mostly more complaining. Forum members don’t want to read this. I don’t want to read it.
Shady, now it is your posts that are veering from baseball discussion. Please get back on focus and stop arguing with others. And no more new threads, please.
You have started:
Three Saggese threads
Two Burleson threads
Two Trade Chips threads
etc.Starting new threads is excessive and irritating. Stop it. When you want to post, find an existing discussion to join.
Do not comment further publicly about this. If you don’t understand or have questions, contact me off the board. Back to Cardinals baseball.
Just for the record, I’ve started a grand total of one thread since posting at The Birdhouse/The Cardinal Nation….and it was in 2006 when Shady quite possibly was still utilizing a sippy cup.
With Scott in the CF picture. Winn at SS. Nootbaar in the LF picture. Both Edman and Donovan could move to 2B. Or, Edman could be the 2B and Donovan the DH. Point being, Gorman’s excessive strike out rate could make him expendable. Especially, with Saggese and Prieto also in the future 2B picture.
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Neither Prieto nor Saggese have the potential to hit 40+ HR from the left side at second. Gorman is 23 and it will take a remarkable player to make his unique skill-set “expendable”.Isn ‘t Gorman pretty much a LHB O’Neill without the blazing speed? He’s got to show more consistent contact. Especially, if he’s hitting at #3 in the lineup.
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No. Terrible comparison. O’Neil is an outfielder and his skill-set is not terribly unique for an mlb outfielder.
Gorman is a lefty-hitting second baseman who hit 27 HR in only 406 ABs at age 23.
His skill-set is incredibly unique and like many power hitters, he can run hot & cold. He’s not particularly hot to start the season, but if he remains healthy, 40 HR is not out of the question.
Yeah, O’Neill could rarely answer the bell and never received more than 141 AB’s in a season until age 26.
I was comparing them as hitters/offensive players, not their positions. With those specific criteria, how do you compare them?
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I’ll say this and I hope you pay attention.
Dozens upon dozens of outfielders have had seasons of 40 or more homers. Only 5 second basemen. None were left-handed.
Now to your question. After his age 23 season, Gorman had 41 career HR.
After his age 23 season, O’Neill had 9 HR.I’m sorry and this is not personal, but your comparison is ludicrous. Might as well compare Gorman to Ozzie Smith or Bob Gibson.
Gorman is an unique player. O’Neill is always hurt and is a dime a dozen type of guy.
They both have tremendous power potential and both strikeout alot. So maybe the comparison isn’t really that ludicrous when comparing pure hitting. That was my premise. Evidently, you feel Gorman is currently “untouchable” as a trade chip.
O’Neill’s off to a pretty good start with Boston. Hopefully for the Red Sox he can play until tax day…
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