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    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    The author picks the Astros as the team of the decade, but a BA writer likes the Cardinals. No obvious and clear answer.

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    #113572
    bicyclemikebicyclemike
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    Cool to see teams like the Royals, Rangers, Nationals and Astros ahead of the Yankees and Cubs. If only the Red Sox were down a few pegs……

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    It would be hard not to pick the Giants as the team of the decade considering their 3 titles.

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    Shouldn’t you deduct points for 90 and 100+ loss seasons?

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    Astros are only the team of the second half of the decade. Personally I rank World Series wins high whenever gauging great teams. A great regular season team that loses the World Series knocks it down a few notches. A good case in point with the Cardinals is the 2004 team.

    So the Giants are a solid choice for team of the decade. But a good case can be made for others.

    And as has been pointed out, and debated some on Twitter as well, what about poor seasons? This ranking is based solely on how high you fly. But including every season with the bad seasons watering down the good is another way to look at it. But if you want to do that, you probably just use total decade wins, then maybe add bonus points for World Series appearances and World Championships.

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    Personally, I take less stock in the crapshoot playoff results than others. Getting hot for a couple of weeks doesn’t make you a great team any more than losing to said hot team makes you a mediocre one. 2004’s Cards were a great example. They had potentially 5 Hall of Fame caliber players in that lineup, three of whom had MVP caliber seasons. The pitching staff was led much of the year by a surefire Cardinals Hall of Famer. The bullpen was very good. They beat a fantastic Astros team in the NLCS. The Red Sox that year had Schilling and Pedro, who was on the decline at that point, and known PED cheats Ortiz and Ramirez. If the Cards and Sox had played 162 times that year the Cards would have won 90 games, IMO.

    Anyway, the point being…the Giants got the 3 titles and that’s important but as an entire book of work, I’d put the Dodgers and Cards right there with them. At least they weren’t tanking like the Red Sox and Astros.

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    If we are going to discount the postseason then the Yankees, Dodgers, and Cards were the the three best teams of the decade but I am still going with the Giants. Winning one world series in a decade might be a fluke but winning three is not a fluke. They had a great core for a few years and a HOF manager.

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    I’m not discounting the postseason. You take your chances with the postseason every year and sometimes it works out better for you than others. The 2004 and 2005 Cards teams were far better than 2006, but 2006 won the title. The 2013 team was better than the 2011 team but the 2011 flag is flying. Anyway, the point isn’t that winning a World Series is meaningless…but to me it’s more of a tiebreaker than the shut and closed case.

    On a slight side note, I’ve always been a small playoff guy. I dislike the Wild Card and don’t even like having three divisions. If it were up to me it would be two divisions, no interleague, division winners only in the Championship Series and then the World Series. This new system rewards middling play and fans just eat up the narrative that the “best” team won because they got hot for three weeks in a thirty week season.

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    It would be interesting to have a chart like this for the 2000’s. We would add 1 more World Series, 1 pennant, and 6 more division titles, including 2 100 win seasons. That’s a pretty awesome run!!

    #114713
    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    The Cardinals may not be the team of the decade, but they are clearly the “Team of the Central Division” since its creation in 1994.

    “The Cardinals now have as many NL Central Division titles as the four other current teams combined.”

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    Team of the Decade

    First Place
    Three World Series Titles
    Giants
    Second Place
    Two World Series Titles
    Red Sox
    Third Place
    One World Series Title
    Cardinals, Royals, Cubs, Astros, Nationals

    Those are teams of the decade in their proper places.

    #115151
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    I have to go Giants. True, sometimes the “not best team” that season gets hot and wins the WS, but they had to be good enough through 162 games to get to the playoffs in the first place.

    #115672
    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    This is looking at Players of the Decade, not teams. An interesting read, including some names that otherwise may have slipped through the cracks. No Cardinals are anywhere to be found – unless you count Edwin Jackson’s MLB-worst 4.83 ERA this past 10 years.

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    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    The Athletic’s All-MLB Team of the Decade has a full rotation and seven relievers. One of the latter is Andrew Miller. No other Cardinals.

    https://theathletic.com/1347041/2019/11/27/the-athletics-mlb-all-decade-team-building-a-roster-with-the-best-the-2010s-had-to-offer/

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    Will Leitch picks the Giants as his team of the decade, but I disagree with his logic putting the Cubs ahead of the Cardinals.

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    Not only that, but the Cubs’ tank job should have cost them spots.

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    For the decade the Cardinals and cubs had the same number of WS victories, the Cardinals played in more postseasons, and the Cardinals won many more regular season games. But because the Cardinals were clearly the better team for the previous century, that gives the cubs the edge in this decade? Yeah right.

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    bicyclemikebicyclemike
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    Going into the ’20s, the Cubs look to be trending down while the Cardinals seem to be on a bit of an upward trend. Hard to say though – things might look different next year at this time.

    #117710
    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    Long time Baseball America staffer Jim Callis, who now works for MLB, came up with his 10 best farm systems of the decade. He ranked the Cardinals no. 7 despite the fact they produced more 5 WAR players than any other organization – 19.

    It seems that like Will Leitch, who did MLB’s teams of the decade, Callis focused on the big names (stars developed), and downgraded consistency. This is a point several posters here have made over time.

    https://www.mlb.com/marlins/news/mlb-top-farm-systems-of-decade

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    There are and will be many “decade stories” of the teens as we head into the twenties. Rick Hummel of the PD did a piece about the “Decade in Review” and top headlines… #1 was the most exciting game in Cardinal history. The two strike triple by Freese knocked me over in a state of frenzy. The Freese extra-inning homer in the same game was simply surreal. I thought about all other Card fans in a tizzy during that game.

    Down to their final strike in the ninth inning of Game 6 of the 2011 World Series, the Cardinals rallied to tie Texas on a two-run triple by St. Louisan David Freese. Two innings later, Freese won that game with a home run to dead center. One day later, Freese’s two-run double in the first inning sparked the Cardinals to a 6-2 win in Game 7 and the 11th World Series title in club history.

    Is still get goosebumps remembering how I felt watching that game. Heck it still lingers to this day.

    #117930
    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    Another decade set of honors.

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    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    #118457
    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    BA ranks the Cards as having the sixth best drafts of the last decade. (I may have already put this on another thread when it was posted on 12/31, so sorry if this is a duplication.)

    https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/ranking-every-mlb-teams-draft-performance-in-the-2010s/

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