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Bob’s Airplane! post has me thinking of a piece of trivia regarding its Manny Mota reference. There’s a bit of a blooper in it. What is it? I bet 1td would be all over it since he likes trivia, but anybody feel free to answer. I’ll try to talk 1td into giving you one of his spare oven mitts. Or maybe a discount at Manny’s BBQ would be more appropriate.
I’ve only been to a few Cardinals games but one was started by Aybar. This was Aug 15th, 1997. Aybar faced off against Tom Glavine in his prime so it didn’t look good for the home team. Aybar kept the Cards in it by only allowing 2 runs in 6 innings, pitching in and out of trouble with 4BB vs only 2 k’s. Glavine was spectacular for the Braves. He pitched 8 shutout innings but mixed in was 4 walks to Big Mac, as he clearly didn’t want any part of that matchup, much to the ire of the crowd. Glavine went out for the 9th, Lankford led off with a base hit, and McGwire strode to the plate. Everyone expected the free pass again and began booing angrily. Glavine chose to pitch to him, though, and McGwire tied it up with a big fly, 2-2. Delino Deshields walked it off in extra innings with a walk off dong. Unbelievable game.
You picked a good one, Mrperkins. Those types of come from behind and then win in extras always seem like they happened a week ago. One of the many reasons I detest the make believe runner in extras is that to me it diminishes the exitement and drama of bonus baseball. It’s a shame.
I have not a clue, Euro. I’ll give this elite squad of experts a while to come up with the right answer, but then I’ll have to attempt to steal the signs and look it up…If I do, I’ll certainly dislose the fact that I did so simply because those baseball gypsies don’t take kindly to that sort of thing and they can be murder…Haha!
Euro, the biggest thing that I can think of is that Pedro Borbon and Manny Mota never played on the same team. Mota could not pinch hit for Borbon.
I thought maybe Mota could have PH for Borbon during an AS game, but I did some checking and Borbon never played in an AS game. As for Manny, he was chosen as an AS in 1973 which was the only time he participated on an AS squad in his 20 year Big League career. I also happened to notice that in 1972 Mota was running neck and neck in the NL MVP voting, but unfortunately when the ballots were carefully counted, he placed at number 23 in that season’s NL MVP vote…I demand a recount!…Haha!
I saw your comment on the BBQ, Euro. I’m reasonably certain that Powell’s Q is probably really good, but I’d have to say that if my choice was between a place called “Boog’s” BBQ or Manny’s BBQ, I’m opting for Manny’s…Haha! Additionally, judging by Powell’s frame, it’d be my guess that there’d be a shortage of product at Boog’s…
Additionally, judging by Powell’s frame, it’d be my guess that there’d be a shortage of product at Boog’s
LOL. I bet he does like to do some of the quality control sampling. Surprisingly, Boog did not look as big as I thought he would. Or I should say as tall as I thought. Pretty sure Boog is an example of age flattening our spinal discs and curving the spine. He didn’t look much more than 6 feet tall to me.
Yeah, he was a mammoth size player for his day, Euro. I just checked and BR has him listed as 6-4, 230lbs. He looked to be every bit of 6-4, but I’d say he probably carried around a bit more than 230lbs. of BBQ…Haha! At any rate, no one can ever forget a guy who was not only named Boog, but who also had 1st, 2nd and 3rd place finishes for an AL MVP award. I was a bit surprised to have noticed he “only” collected 1776 hits in his 17 year career, but he got paid for pushing baserunners across HP, and not for reaching base. Most definitely the prototypical power or “Powell” hitting, LH’ed 1B’man. I always liked the O’s for some reason and still do. I was checking the standings last season while they were playing well and was hoping they’d sneak into the post-season. Maybe this year.
Machado teaches a course in Public Negotiating 101. Announce you are opting out early. Fans revolt. Team makes big multi-year offer.
His agent is Dan Lozano, who represented Albert Pujols.
BREAKING: Star third baseman Manny Machado and the San Diego Padres are finalizing an 11-year, $350 million contract extension, sources familiar with the deal tell ESPN. Machado helped turn around the franchise. He'll stay as the ascendant Padres seek their first championship.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) February 26, 2023
Machado has been as reliable a producer as anybody ever was. This is a lot like the Pujols contract situation. He turns 31 this summer and the contract goes past his age 40 season. So the question is at what point does the reliable production go over the hump and start downhill, and how steep will the downhill be.
Albert hit hump time near the end of his time in St. Louis, around or within a couple years of his age 30, ahem, season. His production became less regular but still pretty good up until the last couple seasons before the pandemic season. So he was pretty productive until 35 or so. It seems like Machado could hold up physically better than Albert, so there is that.
It seems like the Pads should be able to definitely get 3 or 4 prime years, but he will be a guy in his 30s pushing his body hard, so injuries could become a thing. It seems like aspects of the downhill should be obvious by then, age 34 or 35 season, but he could still be a force beyond that, or it could be all but over. If they can put enough of a team around him, they could be a force for quite a few years. There is the question of how much of an impediment the contract will be toward the end, but who knows how the economics of the game will evolve by then. The Angels are still there.
Its definitely a different approach than what the Cardinals are doing. It seems high risk, a lot of eggs in a basket. We don’t know enough about the insides of the economics of ownership to judge how serious that risk could be or not be. We do know that the Cardinals and some other teams do not go that route, so we might imply something from that.
The Padres owner seems determined to be the Cohen of the West. They are suddenly making their big brother Dodgers look like misers.
For 2023, Spotrac has the Padres third and Dodgers fifth, with both well above $200 MM, but with a gap of over $30 MM between them.
Meantime, the Cards are 16th with a payroll just a hair under the MLB average of $148 MM.
My thinking is the risk in those big long contracts is potentially serious, for some teams at least, or other owners wouldn’t be speaking out complaining about it.
This, from eight days ago:
“I have little doubt the Padres will announce a lengthy deal for Manny before Opening Day. Best guess, 11 or 12 years and a dollar more than the Aaron Judge deal.”
So close it hurts. 😉
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