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    As far as I am concerned, the sooner Deadspin stops circling the drain and goes down, the better.

    You may have gotten that wish, Brian. Every editor and writer at Deadspin has now resigned.

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    Their real problems began when they lost a lawsuit and were assessed $140 MM in damages to Hulk Hogan, but they lost me years ago when they accused Pujols’ trainer of dealing steroids and later had to recant the accusations when it was learned they fingered the wrong guy. It was Albert’s photo splashed across all the news stories at the time. Oh, gee, Deadspin was really sorry for their mistake. Too bad Albert didn’t sue them then and put them out of business sooner.

    How some people feel sorry for a place that built its reputation on irresponsible smear is beyond me.

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    Now if we could only get rid of Barstool.

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    One of the worst follows on baseball twitter (or the best if you want a good laugh). Not sure how he keeps his job.

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    The former Scout leaders explain that they bought the SI brand, not the company. I really loved the part where they assert that the CBS North Carolina hoops writer makes $900,000 per year by following their financial model of sharing ad revenue. Knock three zeroes off that and you’ll be a lot closer to the pin. Nothing changes. These guys have made a career out of blowing smoke and duping the hopeful/naive.

    https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/11/18/20971100/sports-illustrated-maven-james-heckman-ross-levinsohn-code-media

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    That entire article stunk.

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    The latest wave of industry layoffs hit Yahoo Sports, owned by Verizon (I didn’t know that). I’ve seen a number of writers informing others of their job availability via Twitter. The group let go includes their longtime sports editor Kevin Kaduk.

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    Am I the only one who finds this Anne Rogers person a large waste of space? I have yet to read anything by her that is even slightly informative. I understand she is young and new to the game, but she needs to spend some time in the journalistic minors.

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    I would have to agree CIF. I certainly have nothing against her personally but everything she writes has Captain Obvious written all over it. I can’t recall her writing anything that I didn’t already know. Perhaps they should have given the full time job to Joe Trezza.

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    National baseball writer Joe Sheehan reminds the naive that first and foremost, MLB.com is not going to make its owners look bad by reporting negative news, no matter now big the stories may be. His examples include the Brandon Taubman harassment/fining story from Houston and the current proposal for minor league contraction. Guessing they didn’t say much about sign-stealing, either, though to be honest, I only rarely go there for news.

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    gscottar, Trezza had already accepted the job as Orioles beat writer before Langosch announced she was leaving/being promoted.

    She just graduated from Mizzou so I would assume there’s a huge learning curve getting hired by MLB immediately out of college.

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    Does SI do more local coverage now. Saw that they have Illinois Athletics coverage and have been covering some things for some time.

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    SI is adding local bloggers like Scout did (same guys in charge), but without the subscription revenue to pay them. Just payment from ad clicks as far as I can tell. I suspect the quality will be spotty.

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    Keith Law has moved from ESPN to The Athletic.

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    SI is adding local bloggers like Scout did (same guys in charge), but without the subscription revenue to pay them. Just payment from ad clicks as far as I can tell. I suspect the quality will be spotty.

    I noticed that the other day. From the article I read, I’d say it was about the same quality as the Fansided sites. They may have some fans writing, but the content is not all that well written.

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    I worked with Jeff Ellis at Scout and John Sickels’ reputation is known. Neither have jobs currently. My guess is that with Law on staff, The Athletic will use him for prospect lists, rather than pay a contractor (Sickels). Just a guess, though. Two voices would be even better, but costs more…

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    +1

    Now, the NY Post has reason to look down on SI…

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    Sickels is better than Law, plus he’s not arrogant and pompous.

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    I get it, but I was not passing judgement on them or their social media style, but trying to gauge how The Athletic is using them as prospect analysts. The Athletic has a number of staffers who seem to have “big” personalities.

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    An article about the double whammy of the virus and the loss of games and how it’s affecting sports writers.

    https://www.theringer.com/2020/3/30/21199460/coronavirus-sports-media-fangraphs

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    stlcard25, thank you for sharing that article.

    IMO, it does a good job of telling the story of the push for companies to unload regular employees and move to freelancers. That is essentially what the new owners of SI have done. Now, with no sports, the freelance work has dried up, too.

    A key point often overlooked in these scary times is that freelancers have no company health insurance coverage.

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    Freelancers not being paid is affecting the production crew for Cardinals games on FOX Sports Midwest, with a lot of frustration directed at new owner Sinclair Broadcast Group.

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    Said one person on the technical side: “Of all the guys on my crew I talked to, it was like “(the heck with) that, a loan is not going to do us any good when baseball kicks back up and they want to take $250 out” of our checks per game for the first 10 worked. “We appreciate the offer, but no thanks.”

    He said none of the colleagues he talked to is taking the loan.

    “It may help now, but it will hurt us come June, July,” he said.

    **some brilliant financial minds there…I have a friend who is bagging groceries (high demand now) in dallas for 18 dollars and hour after being fired last week. His new job starts in July but he needs to pay the bills. He also knows its his own fault for not having at least 3 months of saving liquid..anytime you can take an interest free loan, do it.

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