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Bizzare = impatience (Srry 14Ny)
Bill has until next offseason to dump as much of the talented expensive players that he can, and I expect him to.
If we are playing or youth as mandated, we sit here as sellers, looking to dump salaries thru trade and free agency, by next offseason. What else should be happening?
BDW,Jr. (especially at his age) doesn’t want to go multiple seasons in the tank just to plant seeds for the future. He wants to get back in the hunt, while at the same time that he invests a bunch of money to strengthen the pipeline. That’s why it’s called a “reset”, and not a total rebuild. He knows that the team needs to have a decent season and be in the playoff hunt to keep the turnstiles moving. There’s plenty of good pitching in the pipeline. What needs to firm up is the position prospect side of the equation. The development of players like JJ Wetherholt, Jimmy Crooks, Chase Davis, Victor Scott, etc. is key.
BDW,Jr. (especially at his age) doesn’t want to go multiple seasons in the tank just to plant seeds for the future
A lot of this is semantics but he has said multiple times that their way of doing business is not working anymore and they need to get back to player development, which has always been his preferred method according to him. He hasn’t actually given a time frame on it but I don’t think he is looking for a quick fix. I think he is smart enough to know this may take awhile.
Same reasoning as when Mo took over for Walt. Don’t trade youth away, instead PD a self-sustaining base of inexpensive players. Now its on Bloom. The budget fluctuates according to win probability. “Cycles”.
From Mo’s comments and actions, I think Cranny is correct in the path the team will take. I would not expect this team to be trading any off the MLB team unless it is Arenado. I imagine the Cards will try to see if the young guys can improve the team and re-evaluate in July based off the standings.
BDW,Jr. (especially at his age) doesn’t want to go multiple seasons in the tank just to plant seeds for the future.
I’m thinking that DeWitt doesn’t use his head when he thinks…. he uses his wallet. It’s just business. Capiche.
If that’s the case, then his wallet gets fuller if he puts a winning team on the field to keep the crowds high, and goes deep into October for the playoff money.
Exactly Cranny, but he also knows the cost of a winning club without the pipeline producing strong returns.
Bill doesn’t appear too interested in adding to the budget, but i also think if a good deal presents itsself, he won’t pass.
What we do know for sure is Bill hasn’t spent since Middleton.
Yes the Cardinals are hedging their bets a bit to see what happens the first half of the season but I suspect they will have a quick trigger with the eject button come July if things aren’t looking bright in the standings. We have already has some purging this winter (Goldy, Lynn, Gibson, Kitt, Middleton, maybe Nado) and there will be more purging before the start of 2026. I think winning will be a bonus the next couple of years but not the priority.
KCB – Sage as in an adjective. Wise, prudent, or judicious by experience.
Yea I get that. Bill is real sage killing the golden goose the way he did. Don’t blame Mo. Bill should have fired him for running the organization into the ground. Yea that’s real sage running off the paying customers.
BDW didn’t get to be extremely wealthy by making poor business decisions along the way. Perhaps, though, in his senior years he has become both more loyal and more conservative.
BDW didn’t get to be extremely wealthy by making poor business decisions along the way. Perhaps, though, in his senior years he has become both more loyal and more conservative.
He should have shown his loyalty to the 3 million fans a year who spent their hard earned money to make BDW extremely wealthy. He’s kicked them to the curb so Mo doesn’t get his feelings hurt and Bill still can make huge profits. You can’t make excuses for him. He knew the PD system was trash. That part was inexcusable.
I wonder if he’s been on the decline insofar as his ability to recognize a favorable business opportunity in a similar manner in which his 3B’man has been on the decline insofar as his ability to recognize a slider which ends up way off of the outside portion of the plate?
BDW has shown loyalty to the fans, KCB, by giving them winning Cardinal teams in all but 2 seasons this century, as well as 2 World Championships. Where do the Cardinals rank in MLB in both regular season and playoff wins this century?
Bill had a good run. That’s how he got the 3mil a year thru the turnstiles. His runs been over for a long time. You can keep living in and bringing up the past, but it’s not doing anything for our future. We haven’t been close to championship caliber for years. They have to get this rebuild right if I ever want to see glory again. And so far that isn’t getting done right. I hope by OD it looks different. So far all they’ve done player wise is dump salary.
BDW felt that he could hopefully get back into a championship run by beefing up the MOTO with the acquisitions of Ozuna, then Goldschmidt, and Arenado. It didn’t work, even with a 93 win season just two years ago. Some fans seem to forget that the Cardinals have had seasons of 90 or more wins in 3 of the last 5 full seasons. Now, with the big market teams going crazy with payroll, he knows that the only way back is through strengthening the minor league system, in a big way, by making major investments in equipment and personnel. And he’s doing just that.
bccran said:
Some fans seem to forget that the Cardinals have had seasons of 90 or more wins in 3 of the last 5 full seasons.
And the other two seasons, the most recent two, they were not very good in a substandard division. But ALL fans (not some) know that.
Harkening back to the past is not the matter on the table. The current state of the team is.
How has he strengthened the minor league systems personnel wise? I know there’s still time, but all they’ve done so far with player personnel is dump salary. I understand they’ve added a lot of non-player personnel. But that was because of them letting it rot. Don’t get me wrong. I’m hopeful. And I understand they have to find trade partners willing to give up prospects for ML players. But eventually we need actual prospects to be coached by the new instructors and coaches in the system. And so far, Mo hasn’t been successful.
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