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Yeah, he’s hung those paltry numbers on the board while appearing in 17 games and collecting 64 PA’s this season. He’s obviously not generating any production when he’s in the lineup and his handlers obviously aren’t affording him steady playing time. Send him south and allow him to see 4 or 5 PA’s every day and maybe he’ll miraculously develop into a productive Big League bat. Personally, I’ve all but given up on him.
Rats, if that trade was truly offered and we rejected it the answer about regret would be pretty obvious!
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I liked your breakdowns above, but one point on Herrera. Why do you see him as athletic enough to play a corner outfield spot? I think he would have a decent enough arm for left, but if his speed is actually a 30 grade, VS III is gonna run his legs off covering all of CF and most of a corner.
Scouting grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 45 | Run: 30 | Arm: 50 | Field: 45 | Overall: 45
Cards4Ever, I typically use Fanfraphs scouting reports and they had a 40 on Herrera’s speed. Below average overall, but more athletic than your average C and plenty of guys are average defenders in the corners with below average speed. Herrera also had a 27.3 MPH sprint speed last year which puts him smack dab in the middle of MLB at the 47th percentile.
Herrera also just looks more athletic than other catchers. Then in the base paths he has also been quite good in his career and is a better than a erage baserunner.
Definitely understand that. I don’t love him as a catcher myself and think he is a little below average as defensively as a catcher, but with what is at the MLB level right now, he is the best C option the team has overall. I think Jimmy Crooks can change that narrative as his defense quality plus average offense can lead to Herrera being pushed off C maybe to LF, 1B, or DH.
They should bring Herrera back as FULL TIME dh. Work him daily at his new position so he isn’t learning at the ML level ala Walker. First base makes sense.
If Baker isn’t a middle order bat, why carry him? Baker and Herrera are redundent. Everyone can’t be the DH.
Jj as I said in another post we seem to have more players who are really DH’s than any team in MLB History
Baker
Burleson
Contreras
Herrera
GormanAnd other than Herrera who hasn’t had enough at bats to really know for sure our other DH’s can’t really hit! It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad!
Steve, your list above, is also their D value, worst to best, for me.
The first four are passable in the field and have no legit second position. None can play middle infield or 3B as Gorman can.
Throw Walker in the discussion and we have five DH’s for 1B, DH and RF. I expect Herrera for Pozo (demoted) as the FO path of least resistence when Herrera returns, but i think it should be Baker. Mo is much more invested in Pages and the five you listed.
I’m expecting the Siani treatment for Pozo. Hired as backfill and treated as such.
Jj I really feel like when we start winning again maybe 2029 or 2030 almost none of the players on the current roster will even be on the team! Maybe Winn, Donovan, Herrera, perhaps Pallante so I’m not that concerned with the current players! Weed and ship em out IMO and get young prospects and really start the rebuild!
It’s Mo’s last chance with his guys. Bloom gets the weeding and adding back duties. Good luck to us!
Do we regret not making the Walker/Winn for Juan Soto trade back in 2022?
My recollection is that Carlson and/or Gorman were supposedly going to the Nats for Soto. It would have been a nice short term victory for the Cardinals but Soto wouldn’t be here right now. Does anyone think the Cardinals would have givin him a 15 year $765M contract?
Maybe just try the approach that landed Pozo, a 27 year old who has bounced around like a ping pong ball, but seems to be better than anything we have. (Not that the Cardinals brainless trust will admit it.) They clearly are not going to have any better luck producing a middle of the order difference maker, and better than anything we have is a low bar to clear.
He’d have signed up for half of that kind of money to be able to say that he played for a team that was supported by the GFIB.
My recollection is that Carlson and/or Gorman were supposedly going to the Nats for Soto.
Yeah, the reporting at the time was the Cardinals balked at Carlson being included in the deal.
MostBet didn’t last an hour here before being shown the door. Seems a bit harsh for just saying “nice”.
Yeah. I’m glad TCN didn’t choose to print the rest of this guy’s ….? BTW, I am 100% supportive pf keeping things civil around here, although if someone blows his stack once in a while, I get it. That’s just human action/reaction. But I get annoyed and start to feel alienated when I have to constantly look at adolescent gibberish somehow trying to present itself as dialogue.
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