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September 2, 2020 at 10:08 am #138239
The Cardinals have not yet made their decision, but you know we are on it…
Big news, via @jnorris427.
MLB has told teams they *will* be allowed to hold instructional games/workouts for minor leaguers later this month.
Pro scouts can also scout those games in person.
Details here: https://t.co/PzAtVJFqcU
— Baseball America (@BaseballAmerica) September 2, 2020
September 2, 2020 at 12:37 pm #138271Has there been any progress made on what the AFL might look like this year?
September 2, 2020 at 12:57 pm #138273Nothing even semi official, but I doubt there is going to be an AFL.
September 2, 2020 at 1:18 pm #138275
stlcard25ParticipantSounds like Brian needs to break out the ol’ pro scout uniform to get us some scoops here at TCN. Or find a contact who is a scout. Ha. I’m really missing having some info on how guys like Gorman, Montero, Liberatore, Thompson, etc are doing.
September 2, 2020 at 2:39 pm #138277The tweet is a tad misleading. The article notes that teams CAN allow scouts in their instructional camps if they choose. But they cannot scout other teams unless they allow other teams’ scouts into their facility. I have already noted that if the Cards have instructional camp and let scouts in, they should do the same for those who bring the news about their players to you fans.
P.S. To clarify, scouts are not allowed in the alternate camps currently in operation.
September 2, 2020 at 10:55 pm #138380…. and wouldn’t you like some info on the group that we just drafted? Will any of them hit the ground running, or will it take years for these kids to be able to show us something? The Cardinals 2020 draft class is loaded with high ceiling athletes.
September 3, 2020 at 12:15 am #138382Walker and Winn are in Springfield now, but yes, an instructional camp could include many more.
September 3, 2020 at 11:49 am #138423I should have also mentioned (for those who cannot read the BA article) that another condition that MLB is requiring is that if teams have camps, they have to pay their players for their time at work. This revolutionary concept reportedly caused some teams to object to the proposal before it was finalized.
September 3, 2020 at 12:55 pm #138438How dare someone propose that the players get paid!
September 11, 2020 at 7:56 am #139667krbpackfan
ParticipantHas there been any insight if we are having a fall instructional camp?
September 11, 2020 at 8:12 am #139668Not yet.
September 11, 2020 at 8:40 am #139669
stlcard25ParticipantIf there’s a camp, is it your intention to go, Brian? Of course, that’s assuming that they will allow media in some capacity.
September 11, 2020 at 11:27 am #139677Absolutely. They already have my request.
September 11, 2020 at 11:58 am #139681This has an overly-dramatic title, but the major point confirms what was already most obvious – no AFL in 2020.
No Arizona Fall League expected this year as development comes to a halt. My latest @Sportico. @MLB https://t.co/vxhnNSHVwv
— Barry M. Bloom (@Boomskie) September 11, 2020
September 14, 2020 at 2:27 pm #140076I just asked Mo about fall instructional camp. He said there has been no decision and there would be no camp until at least November.
September 15, 2020 at 10:23 pm #140284Find the attitude for a chance for workouts strange compared to college football for example. Maybe it is a difference do to the sport involved but top college football teams will take everyday possible to practice.
September 15, 2020 at 10:28 pm #140285College (and pro) football is highly motivated to practice and play because of the huge amounts of money involved. On the other hand, minor league baseball is a major expense item. I don’t think fear of COVID is what is keeping the minors quiet for the rest of 2020. Apples and oranges, IMO.
September 21, 2020 at 7:35 pm #141199Note that all 15 MLB teams that train in Arizona have committed to fall instructional camps next month, including a coordinated schedule of games, unlike the Cardinals. That includes all three NL Central rivals – the Cubs, Brewers and Reds.
The Arizona Fall League has canceled its 2020 season.
Story here: https://t.co/i58yMmdEhB
Not all is lost for minor league development, though. Teams in Arizona are set to start instructs games in two weeks.
Details: https://t.co/f3gqxefor3 pic.twitter.com/tF0VEZ7oPd
— Baseball America (@BaseballAmerica) September 22, 2020
September 29, 2020 at 10:38 am #142506krbpackfan
ParticipantI wonder what we will be doing for Fall instructs. Almost all MLB organizations are having them.
September 29, 2020 at 10:43 am #142507Nothing.
I wrote about this for TCN members about 10 days ago…
St. Louis Cardinals to Quarantine – Except for those Excluded
September 29, 2020 at 10:46 am #142510krbpackfan
ParticipantThat’s too bad for player development. Come next Spring, we will see who worked their tails off to get better and who didn’t.
October 12, 2020 at 11:47 am #144251The Cardinals and Yankees are the only organizations not holding fall camps.
We compiled instructional league rosters for every team.
Here are the four who still are alive in the playoffs.
Rays: https://t.co/q6NJF0V9d8
Astros: https://t.co/K7yj641Zvz
Dodgers: https://t.co/fJp682FhMS
Braves: https://t.co/AzpIjDltQJ pic.twitter.com/udELBAnCpw
— Baseball America (@BaseballAmerica) October 12, 2020
October 12, 2020 at 11:51 am #144256
stlcard25ParticipantWhat a weird choice to make. I can’t understand why the Cards would punt on the chance to get their prospects some development. It seems like it could have some big consequences a year or two from now, or 3-4 years away for the big league club.
October 12, 2020 at 12:12 pm #144262It is money. Mo explained here.
Cardinals Adjust Alternate Camp Plan with Instructional Camp TBD
October 12, 2020 at 12:22 pm #144265
stlcard25ParticipantIt is money. Mo explained here.
I get that it’s money. I also still think it’s weird that the Cards think they are poorer than every other team in MLB (except the Yankees, apparently) to the point that they’d risk all their prospects falling behind to save a Brad Miller’s worth of cost on a camp.
Maybe they’ll really do one in January or maybe they’ll still be too poor. Still, as a fan of the minor league Cards, as I’m sure you are too, it stinks.
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