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July 30, 2024 at 5:04 pm #262282
Rays Acquire Dylan Carlson https://t.co/s3aj5aT9Oc pic.twitter.com/P5QmlE7n13
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) July 30, 2024
July 30, 2024 at 5:05 pm #262284For Shawn Armstrong? Reliever! Anyone know him?
July 30, 2024 at 5:12 pm #262286He is a 33 year old rental reliever. Average numbers. Not as good as Floro who ended up going to Arizona.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/armstsh01.shtml
July 30, 2024 at 5:29 pm #262293Wow, disappointing end to Dylan’s Cardinal career after a promising start. Wish him all the best.
Player the front office got back not out of line with Dylan’s performance. Really do not expect much. Hope I am wrong.
July 30, 2024 at 5:33 pm #262295Basically, cleared the roster slot.
July 30, 2024 at 5:35 pm #262297bling is correct.
July 30, 2024 at 5:44 pm #262301PadsFS
ParticipantHad him on fantasy last year. He was elite then.
July 30, 2024 at 5:53 pm #262303Basically a give away. I hope Dylan plays every day in Tampa and can find some success. It just never happened for him like we thought it would. Still a highlight of this year was that throw – that might have been in Tampa where he did that – not sure though.
July 30, 2024 at 6:01 pm #262305He has to stay healthy to play every day. Then he has to perform well enough to stick in the lineup. It’s not as though he hasn’t had the opportunity here. He has, more than once.
July 30, 2024 at 6:02 pm #262306
jj-cf-stlParticipantHmmm, demoting Carlson to AAA with Walker?
Mo set Dylan free!July 30, 2024 at 6:11 pm #262308Shawn Michael Armstrong. The real scary thing on “Armie’s” resume isn’t actually his stats, but rather where he graduated high school……Wes Craven High School. His numbers really aren’t too shabby….a 3:1 career K-BB ratio, 9 K’s and only 1 BB in his last 7 innings stands out to me. Our starters need only go 5 frames and then we shut down the opposition over the next 4 innings with a 1-2-3-4 rock-em-sock-em punch of Armie-Kitty-JoJo-The Terminator.
July 30, 2024 at 6:33 pm #262311#STLCards POBO John Mozeliak: “Obviously, it’s a little bittersweet when you have to trade somebody like Dylan Carlson, but in all honesty, it wasn’t working here. We were going to be left with a tough decision, so we felt we’d give him a change of scenery and address our needs.”
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) July 30, 2024
July 30, 2024 at 6:41 pm #262313I really like it a lot when Johnny says, “But in all honesty.”
July 30, 2024 at 6:49 pm #262315It sounds to me like they might have non-tendered Carlson this winter had he not been traded.
July 30, 2024 at 6:51 pm #262316Idk what happened in the Floro deal but the nats pivoted to take a 25 year old corner inf whose having a heck of a year in AAA over Carlson. Maybe it was something to do with money or maybe they wanted something else and the Cards balked and went to Armstrong. Who is walking and giving up hits like crazy this year. FIP darling a little bit. Sounds like the stat boys won out over this one. Maybe Bloom had a part as well.
July 30, 2024 at 6:56 pm #262317Well, I did not think Mo would get much for Carlson, but I expected a trade of more consequence. Carlson and a prospect for a much better reliever, for example.
July 30, 2024 at 7:27 pm #262319It sounds to me like they might have non-tendered Carlson this winter had he not been traded.
Sounds about right. It even sounds obvious after thinking a bit about how it transpired and who was exchanged.
July 30, 2024 at 8:09 pm #262331Au revoir
July 30, 2024 at 10:00 pm #2623721982 willie
ParticipantWell it was a trade that pretty much had to happen to keep a happy clubhouse. I wouldnt even consider the pitcher we got average so it is what it is. With this the cardinals have finally gotten rid of what was supposed to be our outfield for a long time. Oneil has berm doing good, bader has managed to do well for the most part, i wish the best for carlson.
July 31, 2024 at 8:57 am #262399Not a fan of this trade. The Cardinals were hurt by lack of OF depth this year – are they going to sign a FA outfielder for next year?
It would have seemed preferable to send Carlson down to AAA to get him playing time everyday so he is positioned to be a regular who can play all three OF spots next year.
The pitcher they got back does not impress with his body of work this year.
July 31, 2024 at 9:09 am #262401PadsFS
ParticipantWith this the cardinals have finally gotten rid of what was supposed to be our outfield for a long time. Oneil has berm doing good, bader has managed to do well for the most part, i wish the best for carlson.
We are really churning through them.
OPS+ of former Cardinal Outfielders:
2024 Dylan Carlson – ???
2023 Tyler O’Neill – 144
2023 Richie Palacios – 98
2022 Harrison Bader – 106
2021 Lane Thomas – 113
2019 Randy Arozarena – 109
2019 Marcel Ozuna – 168
2018 Adolis Garcia – 88
2017 Randal Grichuk – 112Maybe its nostalgia/hindsight, be we always seemed to get the best years of most of the young guys we let go.
Rick Ankiel, Ryan Ludwick, Colby Rasmus, David Freese, Jon Jay, Allen Craig, Matt Adams, Jason Heyward, Kolton Wong, Steven Piscotty. I think Piscotty/Grichuk was where that ended.
July 31, 2024 at 9:12 am #262402PadsFS
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Not a fan of this trade. The Cardinals were hurt by lack of OF depth this year – are they going to sign a FA outfielder for next year?
It would have seemed preferable to send Carlson down to AAA to get him playing time everyday so he is positioned to be a regular who can play all three OF spots next year.
I agree. It has a huge potential to backfire and there is very little upside, just like the O’Neill deal. Carlson had two years of control left and will be 27 in 2026.
July 31, 2024 at 10:25 am #262411
jj-cf-stlParticipantHave y’all wrote off Walker?
O’Neill & Carlson were given extended looks and failed to hold down a starters role effectively, due to consistent injuries.
You guys still hoarding your cassette tapes? 😜
July 31, 2024 at 10:38 am #262413
jj-cf-stlParticipantO’Neill gone, helped allow Burly to breakout, so it turned out as a best case for both.
July 31, 2024 at 12:15 pm #262424Mo did some good things but replacing Gallegos with Armstrong wasn’t one of them. Made our bullpen worse and cost us money. Carlson may not have improved if sent down or he might have
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