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    They just came out with their Top 20 for the PCL. Does anyone have access?

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    DeJong (5), Kelly (7), Flaherty (8), Weaver (10), and Bader (19). O’Neill did not make Top 20.

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    O’Neil fell off several prospect lists around the mid-season mark and a lot of it had to do with his extremely high strikeout rate and low batting average. O’Neil is a Randal Grichuk 2.0 with only better base running.

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    O’Neill walks at a higher rate than Grichuk.Dismissing O’Neill is nonsense.Remember that he is one of the younger players in the league also.Calling him RG II is the lazy way out.

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    Grichuk and O’Neil both reached Triple A by 22 years old. Their stats are virtually the same or extremely similar. Its not lazy, its called using your eyes to read the stats and scouting reports. Not doing so is truly lazy.

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    Thanks very much, Derek. 5 out of 20 in a 16 team league is pretty strong. Especially since it doesn’t include O’Neill. It will be interesting to see who we have in the Texas League Top 20. Hudson?
    Gomber? Alcantara? Mercado? Adolis Garcia?

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    O’Neill’s walk rate makes him a lot different than Grichuk. Their overall power may be similar (MiLB SLG% of .503 vs. .508), but Grichuk had a minor league OBP of .320, which dropped to .296 in the MLB. O’Neill has a .341 OBP in the minors and put up a .385 in the AFL. He will be a lot more consistent I believe.

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    The TL Top 20 featured six prospects from Springfield: No. 4 Flaherty, No. 9 Sierra, No. 10 Hudson, No. 11 Garcia, No. 14 Mercado, and No. 20 Alcantara.

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    Smaller league than the PCL, but very impressive. Thanks very much for posting, Derek.

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    That’s Adolis Garcia, not Anthony, right?

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    One thing that worries me about Bader is his splits.

    In 2016, he had a .671 OPS vs. RHP and a 1.164 OPS vs. LHP.

    Then in 2017, he had a .679 OPS vs. RHP and a 1.262 OPS vs. LHP.

    (Also, very limited ML time, .518 OPS vs. RHP and 1.412 OPS vs. LHP)

    I was hoping those numbers would improve in 2017 at AAA, but they’ve seemed to get even worse.

    Luckily, they went out and got a LH OFer in Tyler O’Neill to potentially platoon with him.

    O’Neill, though, had a 2016 OPS of .915 vs. RHP and .780 vs. LHP, while his 2017 OPS was .786 vs. RHP and .880 vs. LHP.

    At least he’s not similarily RH like Grichuk, Piscotty, Pham, and Martinez.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 12 months ago by Avatar PadsFS.
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    Good info Pads. Sounds like a platoon candidate (with Sierra?). The problem is despite all our depth, we have very few LH bats.

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    Yes, that is Adolis, not Anthony (if he is still a prospect).

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    So Flaherty doubled up on the awards too. I wonder if anyone else will do that.

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    Helsley is the only Cardinals prospect who cracked the FSL Top 20, placing at No. 10.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 11 months ago by Avatar Derek Shore.
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    Thanks, Derek. Not surprising, but was hoping Arozarena or Woodford might make it.

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    Not surprising Arozarena and Woodford didn’t make it. FSL was loaded this year in terms of talent, especially in the later part of the season once Vladdy Jr. and Bichette arrived.

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    I may be wrong, but didn’t Woodford have the lowest ERA of any starter in the FSL?

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    Only 13 pitchers were in the FSL long enough and threw enough innings to qualify for the ERA title. Seems pretty likely that Helsley would have won had he not been promoted, for example. He was only 18 innings short. Perhaps the same for Gallen, who dominated there before his move up, but he did not stay as long. (Commercial: More coming in our Palm Beach Starter of the Year article coming in a few days.)

    Of course, current year ERA is only one element in prospect status, anyway.

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    Since the BA keague prospect rankings are usually heavier on potential and prohection over performance, the guy I am really surprised got left off the FSL list was Hicks.

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    Hicks will almost certainly make the MWL Top 20 coming out in the next few days.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 11 months ago by Avatar Derek Shore.
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    BA named Dakota Hudson their Texas League Pitcher of the Year. (The league itself had already bestowed their same award on him.)

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2017-texas-league-top-20-prospects/

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    That’s pretty strong. Is he ready to compete for that 5th spot in the rotation in 2018? Is he a more complete pitcher than Gant or Flaherty right now? Should he take a turn in the bullpen first to break him in?

    Waino
    Martinez
    Wacha
    Weaver
    ?

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    Imo hudson needs another year… Or half year.

    Flaherty might need another half year as well.

    But having said that… We do need someone. Not sure if a one year stopgap veteran is the right move or not.

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    Gant might be the guy. I didn’t know he threw in the mid 90s.

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