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The initial meeting did not focus on revenue sharing, but did hit on both economics as well as health and safety, with more to come.
MLB preparing to present lengthy document outlining health and safety protocols to union. Story: https://t.co/VbASZ6o5F2
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) May 13, 2020
Seems like we are going to see either more posturing, or possibly players refusing to play. “Not worth it” to only make a few million dollars and then pay taxes on it.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29174318/rays-ace-blake-snell-says-refuses-play-reduced-salary
The calendar suggests they have no more than 2-3 weeks to get this all sorted out – and remain on schedule.
Regarding MLB plan to seek a 50-50 revenue split, Scott Boras, noting franchise value increases and previous profits (he mentioned a $476M gain in ‘19 for Braves, the one team owned by a public company), said on @JoeandEvan “You don’t privatize the gains and socialize the losses”
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) May 14, 2020
The calendar suggests they have no more than 2-3 weeks to get this all sorted out – and remain on schedule.
I haven’t followed the start date options too closely other than I think the most recent plan was ST could start in June and regular season in early July. Has MLB suggested a date at which point the season will be canceled if no agreement is in place? In other words, is there any thought on what the latest viable start date is?
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In other words, is there any thought on what the latest viable start date is?
Not that I know of. They are not (at least publicly) assuming they will fail.
Not that I know of. They are not (at least publicly) assuming they will fail.
Was thinking MLB (or the players) might put it out there to get the other side to blink. Not sure if one side would benefit from that.
Details on why MLB says they will lose money each game with no fans.
AP Exclusive: Major League Baseball has told its players their prorated salaries would contribute to an average loss of $640,000 for each game over an 82-game season in empty ballparks.
— AP Sports (@AP_Sports) May 16, 2020
MLB should be prepared to be totally transparent with their books if they want their claims to be believed.
A deep dive on the money claims.
MLB owners claim that, if they hold games with no fans, they'll lose $640,000 per game—and that no matter what, the 2020 season will represent a $4 billion loss. But is that actually the case? @craigjedwards on why those numbers don't hold water. https://t.co/pgMNt7N5jm
— FanGraphs Baseball (@fangraphs) May 18, 2020
More money analysis.
A Deep Dive Into MLB’s Financial Losses For The 2020 Season via @forbessports https://t.co/ArkoC8rWte
— Maury Brown (@BizballMaury) May 18, 2020
This is a really good article on the challenges and how the two sides see the money matters differently. Note The Athletic is a subscriber site, in case someone did not know that already…
Salary staredown: Inside the high-stakes negotiation to restart the MLB season. Story with @EvanDrellich: https://t.co/fjPvy5hfBR
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) May 18, 2020
"The owners are greedy. The players are insensitive. The owners are insensitive. The players are greedy." And so the carousel spins. Maybe it won't be anyone's fault if there is no 2020 MLB season. Expanding on my remarks with @DannyMacTV yesterday. (free) https://t.co/hrTR0aFFza pic.twitter.com/YnABUHTljQ
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) May 21, 2020
https://t.co/yOJVpAihDa Union responded to MLB’s health/safety proposal today. MLB will send financial info to the PA tomorrow. That is the right order to follow. Why solving health/safety should be first and most beneficial to getting a deal.
— Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) May 21, 2020
#Cardinals notified full-time staff and employees today that they will continue to pay them their full salaries through the end of June, and have no furloughs planned for the month, according to club official. #stlcards #MLB
— Derrick Goold (@dgoold) May 21, 2020
As teams around baseball weigh pay cuts, the Minnesota Twins and St. Louis Cardinals have proven themselves model organizations in how they treat their employees. Both have committed to keeping their full staffs on at full pay through at least the end of June, sources tell ESPN.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) May 21, 2020
Nightengale is pleading that the sport will be “destroyed” if they don’t come to terms. Pretty clear which side he is on.
MLB and players have no choice but to soon sit down and reach agreement on economic differences or risk irreparable damage to the sport. Formal proposal by MLB expected by weekend. https://t.co/1J6qPRiXmZ
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) May 21, 2020
I thought the first agreement was very owner friendly by getting off the hook for 96% of guaranteed contracts if no games were played. Now ownership wants to amend the pro-rated salaries per game they previously agreed to?
MLBPA should go back to “we have an agreement in place”, because 50/50 sharing with the person who exclusively controls the books is a theft waiting to happen.
Nightengale is pleading that the sport will be “destroyed” if they don’t come to terms. Pretty clear which side he is on.
Brian, I think the article did at least touch on the concerns of both sides. Regardless, as time goes on, what I’m reading and hearing is there aren’t nearly as many people who will be devastated with a lost season as the owners and players would like to believe. Fans always seem to come back eventually, but this is a storm of a different pedigree.
A retired player agent suggests that if the two sides cannot agree on compensation, they should start play and turn it over to independent arbitrators to decide. Personally, I can’t see MLB being willing to take the chance they lose. What do you think?
Retired agent Barry Axelrod has a solution if MLB, union can't agree on economic proposal https://t.co/kzEsUjD3Gq
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) May 22, 2020
Right. Working the deal out themselves might be more likely than coming to agreement on an arbitration process and selection of arbitrators.
Major League Baseball plans to deliver a new economics proposal to the Players Association on Tuesday, sources said.
— Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) May 22, 2020
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