2025 Minor league game thread – Week 18– 8/4-10

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  • #289958
    858booyah
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    I was hoping Brian would comment on some fans outrage on FanDuel in regards to Weatherholt being left out of the lineup on a game being televised.

    #289960
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    It’s not outrage. It’s disapointment in the teams tone deafness toward their customers. It’s raisiing ticket prices and lowering payroll. It’s lowering the quality of the product. It would have been nice for fans to see their #1 prospect everyone is waiting for. They featured him on the ads for the game. I enjoyed seeing Matthews. But their cavalier attitude toward their fanbase is going to only make things worse. I think I liked it better when they acted like they cared.

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    Re: Fanduel. It was too bad for fans as it was a missed opportunity, but the two aren’t connected. IMO, it would be a bad precedent for the marketing people to push for a minor league manager to play a player for non baseball reasons.

    Maybe JJ was due for a day off or perhaps he had a minor injury on Wednesday or illness. Maybe it was just an unfortunate coincidence. No way to know…

    P.S. For those interested in watching minor leaguers, I recommend the outlay of $29.99 a year for MLB At-Bat and you can see them at all four full season levels every game. (It is already included in the out-of-market package.)

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    : Fanduel. It was too bad for fans as it was a missed opportunity, but the two aren’t connected. IMO, it would be a bad precedent for the marketing people to push for a minor league manager to play a player for non baseball reasons

    Well put. It was a missed opportunity. I understand your point about marketing people

    #289972
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    There is a chance he couldn’t have played, but he probably could have. A well run organization sweats the small stuff and would have avoided needlessly antagonizing a subset of the fan base.

    #289975
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    What ever happened to the days of investigative reporting? Matthews pitched a gem last night, it was like he was pitching in 2024 again when he bolted through the system. But no explanation was ever given as to why his velocity dropped in 2025 followed by a drop in success. Is his velocity back up to 2024 standards? Were his coaches insisting that his velocity be lowered in 2025 so that he ocould concentrate on his breaking stuff? Was last nights performance a fluke, an outlier? I feel like I’m being left in the dark. And not a peep about Alec Willis. This kid looks like a stud. But there hasn’t been a word said about him that I can recall since ST. I’m going to guess that development staff is absolutely forbidden to talk to reporters. What else could it be? I know I’m sounding harsh. But Matthews pitched like a top of rotation guy last night. What’s going on?

    #290030
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    Feels like it will be between Mautz (6 SO innings, 1H, 10K) and Kross (3-3, 3B, HR, 2 RBI) for POTY.

    Mautz quietly has a very nice year going in Springfield. He and Henderson give us a little back of the rotation depth to hope on for the end of next year and beyond. We still badly need Mathews, Hence, Doyle…someone, or maybe two someones, to be a top of rotation guy.

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    Marilyn selected Mautz.

    #290036
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    Mud, your frustration trying to understand what has been going on with Mathews motivated me to do the unthinkable, pull him up on the Baseball Savant site. My idea was to look at his 2024 AA statcast stuff compared to 2025 AAA. His most dominant vs this year. I did notice two things of interest. First, whilst we have heard about his fb velo being lower this year, I see that his velo is lower on everything except the change up. Second, his first pitch strike percent was 50% in AA vs 40% this year. Its AA vs AAA, but still of interest.

    The smart people can think what they want about him, but I hope he has been trying to work out how to be successful pitching in a way that his arm can better tolerate. I hope his recent dominant performance happened because his efforts in that regard are succeeding. It might be that he became frustrated with poor results and has returned to doing what got him here, and which also hurt his arm. If the latter is the case, he will hurt it again at some point, and the effects of the injuries will accumulate.

    #290039
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    Bling – I agree with you. He has to find that balance. There may be some things the trainers can do with him (especially in the offseason) to reduce the risk of re-injury, but if he reverts to doing exactly what he was doing last season, he’s likely to be hurt again. That’s why I don’t want to see 96 or 97 again. I do think that he has to get that average up a little more from around the 92 he’s at now to have good success. Maybe average 93 with the ability to throw 95 every once in a while when he needs it. That’s not too far away from where he is now.

    We saw this on display perfectly with Wainwright in his last 5 seasons. He started to fall from 93 to 92 to 91 and then ended around 87. He was still the same pitcher but with less velocity and with each tick down, the results got noticeably worse. And Matthews is obviously not the wily veteran Wainwright was (although Matthews is about as good as you get in that category for a rookie). You wouldn’t think 93 to 91 is that big of a difference, but it sure seems to be based on the results we see on the field.

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    bb and Jnevel, thanks for posting your take on what’s going on with Matthews. I’m still going to go on hoping that he gets his arm strength up so that he can be a 1 or 2 in the rotation. Wainwright’s curveball, when it was really on, was almost like an eephus pitch, IMO. I don’t know how he did it.

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