2023 StL Game #110: Thursday, August 3 vs. Twins

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    1toughdominican
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    I’ve actually been a little disappointed in Burly. He’s shown some signs and glimpses, but nothing beyond a a game or two here and there. I don’t forsee him as a player who’s going to be the primary guy at any position with the Cardinals.

    #230579
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    They showed a clip or two of Masyn Winn highlights tonight during the game. He’ll be with the Big League club around the latter half of August, so that’s something to look forward to.

    #230580
    Andrew Crause
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    Tough- That’s the tough part of developing as a Cardinal. Not many get consistent opportunities to show what they can do. Burly has done well when he’s had the opportunity. He takes good AB’s too.

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    I can see Burleson being a an everyday player holding down a middle of the order slot for someone. It would take some unexpected stuff to happen for that to be with the Cardinals. He will never be a strong defender, but a lot of successful players fall into that catagory.

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    It wouldn’t at all surprise me to see Burleson as part of a trade package this winter. Some team could stick him in LF, or even at 1B, but I don’t think the Cardinals could ever win anything with him as their 1B’man. But who really knows? He’s only 24, so he could end up being another Schwarber for all I know.

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    Liberatore is not looking like a ML pitcher. He is only 23 and he should be given 8-9 more starts this season no matter how bad he stinks it up. We need to know for sure what we have / don’t have with him.

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    I don’t know. We made it to the Ws in 1985 with Jack Clark at 1B. He was never a good fielder but it didn’t matter because of the bat. So all Burly has to do is be Jack Clark.

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    Haha…Yeah, ’87 too! And Burly doesn’t have to worry about the IF shift, which NL teams routinely deployed back when The Ripper stepped in. All jokes aside, I’m sure you recall that for about 2 or 3 years, Clark was one of the most feared hitters in either league. Alec’s got a ways to go before he instills that type of fear.

    #230588
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    I’m sorry, but I’ve given up on Liberatore. Now that I’ve said that, he’ll turn into Cliff Lee.

    #230591
    blingboy
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    I’ve given up on Liberatore

    That places you one step ahead of Mo.

    #230592
    Lee
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    The cards reporters are really lying to the team and fans. When it is reported that Liberatore took a big step towards being in the rotation after a terrible outing like this. He was very lucky to have only given up 5 runs, as he left the bases loaded for the pen to clean up.
    You can give up 5 runs in under 6 inngs and be an option for the rotation.
    He still has control issues and needs to work on it more in aaa!

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    Lee
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    Sorry. Can’t

    #230594
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    Liby is going backwards. Last night he somehow managed to strike out only one batter in 5.2 innings.

    His numbers this season are nothing but wretched. 37.2 IP, 49 H, 18 BB.

    Besides being wretched, he has by now established that he cannot go deep enough in games to hold down a regular slot in the rotation. In 9 starts this season he has gone 6 innings once. That should surprise exactly no one since in 11 AAA starts he only went 6 innings 3 times. So even if he doesn’t get crushed he wrecks the bullpen. And there is no sign that he is improving, he is actually getting worse.

    But one has to recognize that two previous seasons of mediocre .500ish AAA results coupled with dismal stints in the majors wasn’t enough actual reality to cut through the 1st round pedigree hype and Mo’s refusal to accept that he got fleeced by the Rays. So I do not know that this season’s results will regiser either. He will be on next spring’s laundry list yet again.

    #230595
    jj-cf-stl
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    Burly had a nice July. He has lowered his ground ball rate from last season. Lifting the ball is how he breaks out. TBD. Competes really well in the strike zone.

    #230596
    Lee
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    Good post Bling!

    #230601
    ZTR
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    Mo has the rest of the season to evaluate Liberatore.

    It does not look promising though.

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    That places you one step ahead of Mo.

    You can’t hang that on Mo. The manager makes all of the decisions for the organization or so we have been told.

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