October 28, 2021 at 3:33 pm #175904
This means all six finished in the top three at their respective positions – but we don’t get to know the winners yet. The announcements that matter will be made on 11/7.
— St. Louis Cardinals (@Cardinals) October 28, 2021October 28, 2021 at 3:38 pm #175906
Also, Goldschmidt, Arenado and O’Neill are in the running for Silver Slugger awards.
Here’s the full schedule (corrected):
11/7: Gold Gloves
11/11: Silver Sluggers
11/15: Rookies of the Year
11/16: Managers of the Year
11/17: Cy Young Awards
“Finalists” for the last four awards will be announced on 11/8.October 28, 2021 at 4:34 pm #175910gscottarParticipantPaid - Annual
Correa wins 2021 Fielding Bible Award for best defensive player at shortstop. The awards are voted on by a panel of experts who consider statistical analysis, the eye test, and any other factors that they wish to consider. pic.twitter.com/lJTY6j5KQy
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) October 28, 2021October 28, 2021 at 5:53 pm #175912stlcard25ParticipantPaid - Annual
I’d expect Arenado, Goldy and O’Neill to win Gold Gloves. Bader is a possibility, and probably should win but it’s not always about the best defender.October 28, 2021 at 7:52 pm #175919
Well the taylor kid has some great stats so I think he will win it on merit. If bader didn’t miss so many games, he might have made a difference. I think goldy is well deserving as well as edman. Arenado will probably get it but I was a little disappointed with his defense myself. He makes the outstanding plays but a few too many times I saw him botch routine plays. Some of those he wasn’t given errors but they were. Oneil I guess passed the stats test but eyeball test he just doesn’t do it for me. Too many times he let the infielders go 150 feet out into the outfield to catch a ball and sometimes not when with his speed he should be able to run from the wall to the dirt in the normal time a pop up is in the air. Problem is stats don’t show that stuff. I’m big on defensive hustle and he doesn’t hustle defensively.October 28, 2021 at 7:57 pm #175920stlcard25ParticipantPaid - Annual
Well the taylor kid has some great stats so I think he will win it on merit.
He’s in the AL, as are most of the other good gloves it seems. Bader’s competition in the NL looks to be Jackie Bradley, Jr. Harrison has the edge on the metrics but the lack of games may hurt him.October 28, 2021 at 8:03 pm #175922
Oh thanks for that, I forgot both leagues got their own. That graph above your comment messed me up.October 28, 2021 at 8:05 pm #175923
I wonder who the catcher will be. Molina is still good but he’s not great. I’m just not up on the other catchers in the league.October 29, 2021 at 7:08 am #175936
Cardinals won 2 of the 10 Fielding Bible Awards for MLB in 2021 – Goldschmidt and O’Neill. Fourth for Paul and second consecutive for Tyler. These are metrics-driven awards.October 29, 2021 at 7:22 am #175939PugsleyAddamsParticipantPaid - Annual
Interesting note that the great State of Missouri represents 40% of the Fielding Bible recipients, while the once great State of California is shut out.October 29, 2021 at 7:41 am #175943
Sadly, “news” of the means almost-nothing Gold Glove “finalists” obscured these real awards. No one remembers or cares who comes in second and third. As I ask every year, just tell us the winners and stop the fake suspense.October 29, 2021 at 9:22 am #175948gscottarParticipantPaid - Annual
I doubt if any Cardinals win any of the “big four” awards but I would expect Carlson will get some votes for Rookie, Waino will get votes for Cy Young, Goldy will get votes for MVP, and maybe Shildt will get votes for Manager.October 29, 2021 at 9:30 am #17594914NyquisTParticipant
No surprise to me that Edman is a nominee. For those saying that we gave up a lot of defense when Wong left and Edman replaced him…. the FO somehow knew that wasn’t the case…. they had Edman. To those who dismiss his abilities at 2B let’s put those opinions to rest.November 8, 2021 at 7:27 pm #176412November 8, 2021 at 7:27 pm #176413November 8, 2021 at 7:29 pm #176414
No Cardinals “finalists” (more appropriately called top three finishers) for Cy Young Award and MVP.November 8, 2021 at 7:47 pm #176417November 8, 2021 at 8:34 pm #176420PugsleyAddamsParticipantPaid - Annual
Ohtani with the mortal lock on AL MVP. NL will be close….. I’ll go Soto. Edman and his league leading doubles crown and sterling glove, should at least be extended a tip of the cap.November 8, 2021 at 10:54 pm #176425
Really dont know that any on that list deserve mvp. Did any of those make the playoffs. What was their value. Best player on a losing team though I know Toronto had a pretty good record.November 9, 2021 at 4:22 pm #176474
BetOnlineAG has Carlson as the longest shot of the ROY top three and India the huge favorite.
NL Rookie of the Year
Jonathan India 1/25
Trevor Rogers 15/2
Dylan Carlson 20/1November 9, 2021 at 5:07 pm #176483
If india doesn’t win, it will make the whole process a joke.November 10, 2021 at 10:02 am #176518Thundering44Participant
Carlson’s numbers a lot closer to India then people think. Actually has more hits than India and higher OPS +. OPS + is only stat that factors in the ball parks you play in to even out the field. Carlson’s defense was far superior and he helped his team to the post season which India did not.November 10, 2021 at 10:36 am #176519
44 makes some solid points. Wonder what criteria the various BBWAA voters used…
As I have said before, it is too bad the so called finalists aren’t really finalists. If they were, then discussion like this could lead to a better choice of the winner. Instead, the winner was already decided and we are led along with this finalist thing that isn’t really meaningful.November 11, 2021 at 6:33 pm #176606November 12, 2021 at 7:56 pm #176663
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