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July 16, 2017 at 4:24 pm #27736
Adam Wainwright (10-5, 5.20) vs. Zack Wheeler (3-6, 4.86) 6:10 p.m. FOX Sports Midwest
July 17, 2017 at 9:59 am #27795Tough loss yesterday. Not enough runs for the number of hits, and once again we cannot close it. I thought Matheny might stick with Rosenthal to start the ninth against Cervelli, then bring in Cecil against the left-handers. I think Mike needs to get out of the mind set that bullpen pitchers can only pitch one inning, as right now our ‘pen is so bad that if a guy is looking good you need to stay with him. The auto-pilot managing does not work.
It looks dim for the Cardinals to not be in a sell mode in the next week or so. We really need to win 2 of the 3 “non-deGrom” starts, as most likely that game will go in the Mets win column. And even doing that, we only get a series split and basically tread water.
A woeful situation right now. When Dexter Fowler is your number 3 hitter, that is an indication of where your offense lies. Look at the top teams #3 hitter, and there is a huge gap between the Bryce Harper types and Dexter. What has killed us offensively has primarily been Matt Carpenter’s inability to step-up and be a solid #3 production hitter, and Steven Piscotty’s lost year. Aledmys Diaz’ flop is right behind.
July 17, 2017 at 10:31 am #27796This team is so dismal right now it is driving me nuts. I think I need to step away for awhile and let them do what may.
July 17, 2017 at 2:00 pm #2780714NyquisT
ParticipantI find it surprising that not more is said of the success of DeJong.
Another thing…. If someone told you last season that the STL of would consist of Fowler, Pham, Sierra and Martinez, you would of called him a loony.
July 17, 2017 at 3:03 pm #27811People have taken notice of Dejong. I think people are hesitant to heap so much praise on him in fear of a slump. The sample size is a tad small and the jury is out if SS is where he ends up.
July 17, 2017 at 4:57 pm #27819It is warm and clear night in New York – great baseball weather!
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July 17, 2017 at 5:38 pm #27820Lets wait until later in the year until we give DeJong and everyday job. Remember Brian Jordan in 1992? Everybody thought he was great when he was hot early, but he ended up hitting .227.
Besides, in my mind, DeJong is not a TRUE EVERYDAY shortstop.
r/Rat
July 17, 2017 at 7:35 pm #27830If the team was doing well, there would likely be more talk about DeJong. But since the team is poor (to date anyway), people tend to focus on the reasons for failure.
July 17, 2017 at 7:37 pm #27831Bases Loaded and 2 out.
I could see us getting 1 out of this maybe…Forgot it was 2 out
July 17, 2017 at 7:40 pm #27834No more commercials from me from NY this week, but I am posting my news from there each day for members.
July 17, 2017 at 7:55 pm #27838Dejong with a 2 run blast.
July 17, 2017 at 7:56 pm #27839Speaking of DeJong, his 2-run HR just put the Cards up 2-1 in the 6th.
July 17, 2017 at 8:01 pm #27842Mets killer indeed. Press box announcement is that DeJong is 1st #stlcards player ever to HR in 4 straight games against Mets.
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) July 18, 2017
The 1st time it happens every year, I am surprised again as to how many vocal #stlcards fans are at Citi Field. Big ovation for DeJong's HR.
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) July 18, 2017
July 17, 2017 at 8:01 pm #27843Waino keeps hitting like a vintage 1965 Drysdale!
July 17, 2017 at 8:03 pm #27844Wow, that is something about DeJong homering in 4 straight vs the Metropolitans.
July 17, 2017 at 8:07 pm #27846Mets TV broadcast crew also said DeJong is the first player (regardless of team) to ever homer in his first four games against the Mets.
July 17, 2017 at 8:20 pm #27847I don’t hold much into those stats. If his OPS is around .800 and he plays solid defense the rest of the way I’ll take it.
Duda goes yard. We can’t let Adam get it closer with our pen.
July 17, 2017 at 8:20 pm #27848Get a nice lead and then the little league defense rears it head.
July 17, 2017 at 8:21 pm #27849Send Fowler back to the Cubs unexcuseable
July 17, 2017 at 8:23 pm #27850Fowler is having a horrible night. His worst game in a long time and that might be before he was on the northside.
The rub with Sierra is like many players who come through this system he’s not only raw but lack fundamentals in certain area’s. He’s a flawed player with raw talent.
July 17, 2017 at 8:24 pm #27851You don’t see the little league homer often. Cards defense can provide that. Then Fowler with his patented “oh so cute nonchanlant” catch…that turned out to not be a catch. Cards welcome the Mets right back into the game with some absolutely disgusting baseball.
July 17, 2017 at 8:35 pm #27852Sheesh, good offense and bad defense in this one. At least the offense has hit the “On The Run” bonus. This should be the batting order for the next few games:
Sierra
Carpenter
Pham
Gyorko
DeJong
Molina
Wong
FowlerMike likely won’t do that, so at least he should flip Sierra and Fowler and go that way with the rest of the order.
July 17, 2017 at 8:36 pm #27853Five run lead and letting them back in. Are you kidding me? Fowler muffs a routine catch. That’s what $16.5 million a year gets you these days, lackadaisical play.
July 17, 2017 at 9:04 pm #27855Wow, Siegrist looked great! Here is a situation where I would bring him back for the ninth. No way Mike will do that of course, and there is something to be said for it as you love to have him build his confidence on that outing. Bringing him back might not go so good in the ninth.
Promising appearance though.
July 17, 2017 at 9:05 pm #27856Siegrist with a 10-pitch 3K 8th inning.
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