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May 28, 2019 at 6:56 am #91921
Memphis vs. San Antonio, Evan Kruczynski (0-0, 6.30) 6:35 CT.
Springfield vs. Tulsa, Williams Perez (4-2, 5.13) 6:30 CT.
Palm Beach vs. Daytona, Alex Reyes (0-0, 1.80) 5:30 CT.
Peoria vs. Kane County, Diego Cordero (2-3, 2.61) 6:35 CT.May 28, 2019 at 8:33 am #9192414NyquisT
ParticipantAs already mentioned Edman played his first pro career game in the OF during that stay at home Memorial Day twin bill. (speaking of stay at home… only 3,267 showed up).
Shrock also played an OF game which was his fourth there. Originally a 2B only player, he has played 20 games (18 starts) at 3B and only 5 at 2B. At 5’9″ Schrock doesn’t project well as a corner player but the MEM roster is loaded with middle infielders so he gets playing time elsewhwere. Maybe he should acquire a catcher’s mitt.
The Redbirds are also having problems. Since their last off day they are 2-11. Where did our AAA championship team disappear to? You can count on your hand how many prospects there are showing some good progress this season.
And we all know how Springfield is making out.
May 28, 2019 at 2:44 pm #91958You can count on your hand how many prospects there are showing some good progress this season.
The minor league teams are disappointing, and markedly so. But for me, plenty of individuals have raised their stock in a significant way.
Dylan Carlson has gone from borderline top 100 to definite overall top 40. Nolan Gorman from top 60 to top 30 or so. Ivan Herrera from roughly #140 to a certain top 100, likely in the 70-80 range. (No one nationally is talking about Herrera, but get these parallels/comparisons. He’s exactly the same age as Gorman, has a great pre-2019 track record just like Gorman, will have more defensive value than Gorman if he sticks at catcher, and is walking more and whiffing less than Gorman against the same pitchers this year. If he had the glove of fellow backstop Julio Rodriguez, Ivan Herrera would already be a top 50 prospect, and easily so.)
And speaking of Julio Rodriguez, he’s still 21 and the best player in the Florida State League so far. So he’s leaped from top 350-400 to borderline top 100 for me. Others to have moved up meaningfully are Tommy Edman, Lars Nootbaar, Justin Toerner, and Brady Whalen. None of that quartet threatens a reasonable top 100 list, but they all rate top 300 for me now. Maybe top 200 for Tommy.
On the pitching side there’s Angel Rondon, Johan Oviedo, Diego Cordero, and despite his recent struggles Jesus Cruz. And this is top-of-my-head. I’m sure there have been other breakouts I’m not recalling just now, Ny. Especially pitchers.
I would say that the farm system overachievers and underachievers have balanced out quite evenly thus far. But the truly ugly bullpens at both Memphis and Springfield have cost those teams innumerable contests, and made the overall farm system look terrible on many nights.
One last note: Carlson, Herrera, and Gorman may be hitting even better this year than their excellent numbers imply. They have combined for a home OPS just above .770 this year, but a road OPS over 1.000.
May 28, 2019 at 3:00 pm #91964I totally agree Bob. W-L records for minor league teams can be misleading and sometimes irrelevant. Their number one job is player development. Minor league teams have so many players constantly coming and going the team concept is sometimes hard to materialize. I’m sure each local affiliate wants to win games to please their local fans but the big picture is player development, and as you noted, we have several in the pipeline to feel good about.
May 28, 2019 at 3:56 pm #91971I hope Reyes pitches well tonight. If he is pitching well, he could make a big difference to our starting staff.
Also, I never did get why Helsley wasn’t moved back into the Memphis rotation earlier. I know you want to be careful because of his injury last year, but why shouldn’t he be starting at AAA say a month ago? He is a top prospect, and can always be called up to the STL bullpen.May 28, 2019 at 7:02 pm #91983Uneven 2nd Palm Beach start for #stlcards' Alex Reyes. Two unearned runs in 4 1/3 innings on seven hits, just one one walk, 5 Ks. Leadoff batter reached on hits in 4 of his 5 innings. 77 pitches, 48 strikes. Fastball 96-97, topping at 98.
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) May 29, 2019
May 28, 2019 at 7:18 pm #91986Note: An inherited runner later scored, closing Reyes’ book at three runs, one earned.
May 28, 2019 at 7:18 pm #91987Note: An inherited runner later scored, closing Reyes’ book at three runs, one earned.
May 29, 2019 at 6:46 am #92023As one who is relatively uninformed on the minors, what is holding Dylan Carlson back from being promoted to AAA Memphis? He leads Springfield in practically every category of stat – BA, R, HR, RBI and SB. So I guess there is someone at Memphis who is better. Removing him from Springfield would probably make it look like a total T-ball team anyway.
May 29, 2019 at 8:29 am #92028Behind Player of the Day Dylan Carlson’s two extra-base hits and two RBI, Springfield claimed the only Tuesday win across the #stlcards system. Memphis and Peoria pitching were bombed and uneven Alex Reyes could not lead Palm Beach to victory. https://t.co/CHApmMqYwp pic.twitter.com/IdvseHtbM4
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) May 29, 2019
May 29, 2019 at 9:07 am #92037It seems to me that the Cardinals minor league management is trending towards multiple inning use of it’s relievers. 2 to 3 inning outings have been common. Escobar and Fernandez have been used this way, as Fernandez had an almost perfect 3 inning stint last night. The only reason I can think of is that Peoria’s bullpen is very green, and outside of Palm Beach, the top 2 affiliates bullpens have done little more than chuck Molotov cocktails.
Btw, Fernandez is quietly having a very good start to his season. Perhaps he is finally developed a secondary pitch to go with his high octane fastball. He may be in line for another promotion, and possibly a 40 man roster spot if can keep this up.
May 29, 2019 at 9:24 am #92040A system wide pitching and hitting funk.Memphis pitching has been terrible…..now the hitters are slumping….its a mess.The kids who moved to the big club have left a void that hasn
t been filled yet. -Carlson,Montero and some others are adjusting to AA ball so that's a positive .Montero cant stay healthy though.May 29, 2019 at 9:27 am #92041Hopefully Monteros recent injury isn’t that serious since they haven’t put him on the IL.
May 29, 2019 at 10:26 am #92046To MM3, Carlson hasn’t even been at Double-A for two months yet. Plenty of time for him ahead.
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