StL 2024 Game #84 thread – Saturday, June 29 vs. Reds

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  • #257908
    Brian Walton
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    1:15 p.m.
    TBA vs. RHP Carson Spiers (1-1, 3.45)
    BSM // KMOX // WIJR
    Also BS South and Southwest Extra

    #258222
    blingboy
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    Sonny Gray R

    SS Masyn Winn R
    RF A. Burleson L
    C W. Contreras R
    1B P. Goldschmidt R
    LF B. Donovan L
    3B N. Arenado R
    2B Nolan Gorman L
    DH M. Carpenter L
    CF M. Siani L

    #258227
    gscottar
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    Mr. Maalox with another save last night but came a couple of feet from disaster on that last out…whew!

    I think Siani should stay in the lineup even after Noot returns. He is our best defender and baserunner and his offense is warming up. What is not to like? Reds fans have to be furious that their front office gave this guy up for nothing. Mo is finally making amends for the Adolis and Randy fiascos. lol

    #258232
    jj-cf-stl
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    That scenario could transact as Noot for Fermin, w/Donovan to the IF/DH. OF is Noot, Siani, Burly, Carlson (4th).

    Donovan overwhelms the DH role. Carp PH’s, Crawford is strictly backup SS, Pages, Carlson as the bench.

    Until we can add a better CF’r, I endorse who is up.

    #258233
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    I am pretty sure Siani will stay in the lineup with Noot coming back as Noot will go to RF, and Burly to DH meaning Carp is on the bench.

    Now if Edman comes back, I am unsure what the org would do. I maybe would just use Edman as a super util as he used to be. Give him maybe 2 starts a week in CF, 1 at SS, 1 or 2 at 2B, and 1 at 3B. Particularly against LHP he can take CF.

    #258234
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    JJ, why would Donovan be DH when he has been an above average defender while Burly stays in RF and has been one of the worst OFers defensively this year?

    #258235
    jj-cf-stl
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    Thats’ a good point. Donovan has always worked from DH and I guess I used my default setting, which is now outdated.

    Donovan has clearly passed Burly on outfield D this season, even tho they were close to even this winter for me.

    But, if we keep Donny in the OF, we see Crawford too much on the infield and have a Carp/Burleson DH, Oli will struggle with.

    Catch-22

    #258236
    1toughdominican
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    Gray ought to be well rested.

    #258237
    AlbertTheMachine
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    Gorman should have had that

    #258238
    1toughdominican
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    While looking at Gray’s last 5 turns in the rotation I happened to notice that last season he only allowed 8 HR’s in 184 IP’ed. That’s miserly with the taters.

    #258240
    1toughdominican
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    I walked into the kitchen to grab a bag of cheese popcorn and a Coca Cola and missed the entire Cardinal half of the 1st inning. I was only in there for 30 seconds…

    #258241
    jj-cf-stl
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    You had time to spare

    #258243
    1toughdominican
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    Haha…Yeah, I see that. Looks like 8 pitches.

    #258244
    jj-cf-stl
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    Donovans improvement in the outfield has really been a plus this first half. It shows how a ballplayer can adapt.

    We will never get that same defensive improvement from Walker or Burly. Can’t see it at all.

    #258245
    1toughdominican
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    Donovan’s a former GG IF’er and I never thought the defense suffered at all with him situated at either corner of the OF.

    #258246
    jj-cf-stl
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    Edman took on the OF no problem too. Ball players can do that.

    #258247
    jj-cf-stl
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    Error scores, Carp double
    Siani single
    2-1 CIN

    #258248
    1toughdominican
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    Even though the quality of play has been substantially better as of late, Im still seeing a lot of empty seats. It sure looks like a sparse crowd for a sunny Saturday game in June. I talked to a friend the other day who attended a Monday night game vs. the Braves and he told me that he paid $40 just to park so he’d only be about a block from the ballpark with his two young grand kids. Maybe the cost of a game is affecting the gate. It ain’t at all a cheap out down there.

    #258249
    AlbertTheMachine
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    JJ I definitely see Walker being better than he was at first. You could see the improvement late last year and in a small sample, he was an average defender this year. He is very athletic and just needs to continue getting more comfortable out there

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    I hesitate to think Carp made a good base running play!

    He prolly didn’t know WHERE the ball was

    #258251
    AlbertTheMachine
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    1TD, the stands look pretty filled for night games. I can’t blame people for not wanting to go to day games in the summer. I don’t know who scheduled our game times, but they didn’t do Dewitt and favors with so many mid day Saturday games

    #258252
    1toughdominican
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    Yeah, it can be like purgatory during a day game down there, but the heat’s not too bad in the area today. I wouldn’t want to brave it for 3 hours, but when I was younger I wouldn’t think twice.

    #258253
    jj-cf-stl
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    Late, late, reads. Slow first step. Inexperienced routes.

    Walker did improve at the catchpoint, if he got there, but at who’s expense?

    Chris Duncan w/better finishing skills. Neither do read and react like an outfielder.

    #258254
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    I don’t think Walker comes back up this year unless he really goes on a tear. Mo said they are going to be very patient and let him really work on the swing changes to lift the ball. That also gives him plenty of time to keep improving his reads and routes

    We will see what happens in the off-season as there could be trades that open up a spot or injuries.

    #258255
    jj-cf-stl
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    Sure he has time on his side, but my original question was, do you think he can improve like Donovan has?

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