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  • #197677
    Ratsbuddy
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    Who’s going to get called up?

    Burleson?

    Winn?

    Who else?

    #197679
    stlcard25
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    With only two spots…it’s nearly guaranteed to be players on the 40 man already. With Flaherty and Matz possibly returning, they may be one of the two.

    If I had to guess, probably Herrera and a pitcher.

    #197680
    jj-cf-stl
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    Throw Yepez name in that hat too.

    #197681
    blingboy
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    Not Burleson or Winn.

    My guess is whatever pitcher goes down when Flaherty is activated will be one of the call ups. Going out on a limb, Herrera the other.

    #197694
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    My guess is that by Sep 01 Flaherty and Helsley will replace Naghton and Romero. On Sep 01 they recall Yepez and Romero. When Martz is ready they have tô make another move.

    #197695
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    Wouldn’t mind seeing Matz getting the rest of the season off………so he’s ready & raring to go in ’23.

    #197710
    CardsFanInChiTown
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    Yepez I would think is a guarantee, he’s crushing AAA.

    #197711
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    Does anyone know if it is a 14 pitcher max?

    #197713
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    I would say Yepez and Liberatore will be the callups, possibly Thompson or Herrera.

    Flaherty and Matz will probably be activated but I don’t know if I would consider them a callup. Someone currently on the active roster, like Naughton or Romero, could be sent down when they are activated.

    #197714
    stlcard25
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    I have to admit that I really miss when we’d get to see a bunch of September call ups. It felt like a reward for guys who put in the work in the minors all year. But I’m sure it saves the owners a few bucks, which is the bottom line.

    On the 14 pitcher max…I believe that is the case, but I haven’t seen anything that corroborates it online.

    #197716
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    Yepez seems guaranteed

    Hererra makes sense

    Jack and Matz

    Libertore, Thompson seem options depending on need

    #197717
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    I think it’s Yepez and Flaherty. If Matz does come back then Naughton probably gets demoted.

    But I’m sure it saves the owners a few bucks, which is the bottom line.

    I think the main beef was a competitive edge for teems that could go 38-40 deep when other teams maybe had 28. Just like if the Cardinals were able to add Flaherty, Matz, Whitley, Pacheco, Herrera, Burleson, Yepez, Robertson. And they are 36 deep when other teams aren’t able to go that deep. So they capped it at 28.
    Also there was the problem of if you’re AAA team was in the playoffs then you’d want to keep some players in AAA to compete and not call them up. And of the AAA team wasn’t in the playoffs then guys aren’t playing and then do you really want to call them up. They did extent the AAA season to combat that some, but I’m sure AAA owners weren’t happy with the cost of that either.

    #197720
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    In no way am I saying Burleson doesn’t deserve it, and think he does. BUT I just don’t see him being added to the 40 man or being called up this year because he won’t have to be added this winter for the rule 5.

    Pacheco is a long shot but I’d love to see how he fairs in the BP.

    The 40 man moves in November should be interesting to say the least.

    #197730
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    stlcard25 said:

    But I’m sure it saves the owners a few bucks, which is the bottom line.

    I have no proof but I am highly, highly suspicious since the September rosters were cut at precisely the same time as the MLB players got an increase from 25 to 26 players all season long. I can’t totally blame the owners, though. I bet the union jumped at the chance for 30 more veterans to be on MLB rosters all year long. So what if a few prospects take the brunt? It is the way the union has rolled forever.

    It is a disgrace that outside people had to put pressure on MLB to raise minor league salaries and improve living conditions. Tony Clark should have been leading the charge. Instead the rich get richer. The owners got away with it for decades because no one in a position of power cared enough to try to stop them. Not a news flash that the minors are being managed like a cost center.

    All the MLB September pitching change talk seems a convenient reason that is a lot more palatable. Nobody forced teams to make so many pitching changes. They did it to try to win games.

    The Triple-A “playoffs” of this new world include just four of 30 teams in a single elimination format. So three games total, at most two per team. Memphis has almost no chance of making it. No longer a concern.

    Highly, highly suspicious.

    #197738
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    You need tô look at what the team needs down the stretch. The extra catcher isnt as important this year as Yadi is better rested. Definitely need a LH Relieve (Romero) and another RH power bat. (Yepez).

    #197739
    Brian Walton
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    Another point to remember is that normal minor league option rules still are in place until the end of the season. So they two guys called up on 9/1 might not be the same two guys around on 10/1.

    #197744
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    Yes they can shuttle as needs occur or something happens.

    #197745
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    If Dejong went back to taking reps at catcher, we would have our best emergency catcher in years, and Herrera wouldn’t seem so necessary.

    #197778
    bicyclemike
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    I would prefer a bit more compromise between the old 40 man limit and the 26 of today, to 30 for September, and a 15 pitcher limit. Just an opinion.

    #198173
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    I’m assuming Flaherty is one of 2 call ups. Herrera eventually, but you might as well let him finish his AAA season. I’d like to see Pacheco get a look.

    #198184
    14NyquisT
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    Flaherty will be a callup on Sept. 1. He’s pitching for MEM on the 31st (Wed.) and that sets him up for the Mon. Labor Day game vs. WAS. (Hudson’s turn).

    #198191
    Brian Walton
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    There is no reason to activate Flaherty prior to the 5th. It would just take up a spot that could temporarily be used for someone else. They will probably use the extra spot on a reliever for the first four days.

    There are at least six 40-man relievers who could be shuttled through during the final month – Naile, Naughton, Cabrera, Whitley, Fernandez and Pacheco. Plus Liberatore if long relief is needed. Also when Matz is ready, someone will have to go.

    #198193
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    I thought I saw him in the dugout last night. I wonder if he’ll travel with the ballclub to Cincinnati?

    #198196
    Brian Walton
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    Don’t know, but I would not expect it.

    #198198
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    Why is Matz needed at all for the balance of the season? Don’t need 3 lefties and if Hudson get replaced should be Woodford.

    Does the pen need another left arm?

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