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  • in reply to: Cardinals Team Hall of Fame #36121
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    I guess it comes down to what type of HOF we want to have. I think the election of McGwire was a first of it’s kind this year (I don’t mean PED’s). He was elected even though only having played 2 full seasons and 3 partial ones for the Cards, that is if you don’t give him credit for his time as a hitting coach. Those seasons were obviously awesome and he clearly deserves his election. But how do we weigh shortened Cardinals service time vs. overall impact on the franchise?

    Cepeda will also fall in the category of a short but impactful Cardinal career, and I also think he should get in. Jesse Burkett is a Cooperstown Hall of Famer who also only played 3 seasons in a Cardinal Uniform but in those seasons his total batting average was .378 (!). Should he get in? Probably.

    At some point, it will be interesting to see if postseason heroes David Freese, Pete Alexander, David Eckstein, and Darrell Porter eventually make it in. None of them had a very lengthy regular season record. I assume Freese would easily be elected by fan vote if he is one day placed on the ballot. Will someone like Darryl Kile eventually get elected?

    Anyway, this is a long way of saying as we get more elections behind us, more of a precedent will be set and the overall shape of the inductees will become more clear. I think Alston is probably the most interesting case when you try to balance a shorten career vs. impactful.

    in reply to: Cardinals Team Hall of Fame #36118
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    Interesting, since he would be elected as a “pioneer” maybe it would fall to an ownership selection. I hadn’t considered that.

    in reply to: Cardinals Team Hall of Fame #36117
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    I personally would pick Duncan as my next ownership selection. Along with him, Gonzalez, and Lewis, I’d add Buzzy Wares and Dave Ricketts to the coaches list.

    It could be over a decade or more before a scout is selected once you get through Coaches, Managers (Gabby Street, Eddie Dyer, and Johnny Keane), Broadcasters (Caray, France Laux, Joe Garagiola, Jay Randolph, and dare I say it Joe Buck), GM’s (Maxvill, Jocketty, Devine, William Walsingham Jr) and Britton, Yatkeman, and the great Ernie Hayes.

    Getting back to Alston. I know this is a Card’s space, but it was a travesty what the Cooperstown Hall of Fame did to Ron Santo. I agree that we should aim to elect those while they still are around to enjoy it. I’d like to see the election of Orlando Cepeda and Bill White the next few years. After that I think it appropriate to give Alston serious consideration.

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