The Curious Case of Nolan Arenado

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    PadsFS
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    gscottar

    If the Cardinals send Arenado to the Dodgers/Yankees and pay $10M of his $27M salary in 2025 and $5M of his $22M salary in 2026 they would be saving $34M if my math is correct. How would they be taking on additional dollars?

    He has the $15M in 2027 too, so his contract is about $23M underwater. Also, the Cardinals might not include the Rockies money so it’s maybe $32M, $27M, and $15M…Then his deal is more like $33M underwater.

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    gscottar
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    They might as well include the Rockies money since that might enhance the return. If the Cards pay an additional $10M in 2025, $5M in 2026, and $0 in 2027 that would make his salary to the acquiring team be 17, 17, and 15, which seems more palatable.

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    bicyclemike
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    The reason the Cardinals would need to take on some salary is other teams don’t care that we got a good deal from Nado in past seasons. Like anything, the value of something is what someone else will pay for it. What you paid, or in this case the value we got are in the past and not relevant to today.

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    bicyclemike
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    But to tag on, as much as I have enjoyed watching Are nado as a Rockie and Cardinal, I would look to deal him this off season and give Gorman the third base job.

    I would go all in on youth in 2025, but do not think management will do that.

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    Brian Walton
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    #265674
    jj-cf-stl
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    He’s an out front slugger and pull timing is a fickle beast. Ask either Nolan. So they get hot a month and the perception changes. They cool off fast, and it changes back.

    Arenado raising his trade value the 2nd half is perfect.

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    gscottar
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    Let me state that I don’t think Arenado is a bad player and I certainly don’t think he is a bad person. Quite the opposite. He and Goldy are both borderline HOF players who are no-nonsense hard nosed guys. When we acquired those two I think we all thought it was going to be like the Rolen, Edmonds, Holliday, Walker, Berkman, and Beltran deals where they led us to deep postseason runs but it just hasn’t happened.

    I think Arenado’s salary is a burden for this team. Teams like the Yankees, Mets, and Dodgers can have high salary players underperform and still be ok because they can just acquire other high dollar players but the Cardinals can’t operate that way. Our big dollar guys have to produce or we are in trouble.

    I don’t think the Cardinals will actually move Arenado because that isn’t their style but for his sake it would be nice for him to finish his career with a team capable of winning the world series. It doesn’t look like it is going to happen here.

    #265694
    stlcard25
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    I don’t think the Cardinals will actually move Arenado because that isn’t their style but for his sake it would be nice for him to finish his career with a team capable of winning the world series. It doesn’t look like it is going to happen here.

    I agree with all this. The Dodgers would be a great way for him to finish out his remaining productive years.

    I still think he’s got a year or two of solid results left in the tank though…as mentioned previously his OPS has been rising every month so if we could get anything resembling his current state for two more years I’d be ok with keeping him.

    #265700
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    The Dodgers have Muncy. They will not be interested in Arenado.

    #265702
    jj-cf-stl
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    The bank in LA doesn’t think like that Rats. They want to win a world series.

    They look at the roster and ask Miguel Rojas vs Nolan Arenado?

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