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September 16, 2021 at 8:43 pm #172652
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/e/edmonji01.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/simmote01.shtml
I like both players but if Ted Simmons is in the Hall of Fame doesn’t Jim Edmunds belong there as well.
Simmons career WAR is 50 & Edmunds is 60.September 16, 2021 at 9:21 pm #172654YES. Without a doubt. Besides the WAR, Edmonds had 36 more HR’s and an OPS that was 118 points higher than Simmons.
Simmons OPS – .785
Edmonds OPS – .903September 16, 2021 at 9:27 pm #172655Also Edmonds multiple Gold Gloves.
September 17, 2021 at 8:26 am #172661A good case can certainly be made for Edmonds. The biggest differentiator is Simmons being a catcher, where good offense is a little harder to come by.
Speaking of which, how about the year Salvador Perez is having in Kansas City? He has quietly become one of the best catchers in the game.
September 17, 2021 at 8:31 am #172662Edmonds stat-wise is better than Simmons both offensively and defensively.
September 17, 2021 at 3:36 pm #1726681982 willie
ParticipantThe difference probably is relative to position. Compare Simmons to other catchers vs comparing Edmonds to centerfielder.
September 17, 2021 at 5:01 pm #1726731982 willie
ParticipantPersonally I feel Edmonds should be on for his defense. He had enough great offensive years to justify when you combine it with his defense which was in the stratosphere of all time great. But unfortunately not enough real baseball voters, everyone digs the offense.
September 17, 2021 at 6:56 pm #172676I have a feeling that Simmons has more contacts around MLB since he also spent time as an MLB executive, and that helped him get into the HOF. Edmunds deserves to be there, too. No doubt about it.
September 17, 2021 at 7:20 pm #172681Sort of related comment from a week ago.
Gracious of Jim Edmonds criticizing Hall of Fame voters who did not select Ken Griffey unanimously as that was the same year (2016) he (Edmonds) appeared but received less than 5% of the vote and was removed from the ballot going forward.
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) September 9, 2021
September 17, 2021 at 8:34 pm #172686My biggest pet peeve is comparing players who played different positions.
September 18, 2021 at 6:49 am #172699Whether they played different positions is missing the point. I am happy that Ted Simmons is in the HOF but numbers, in this case, don’t lie…Edmunds was a great defensive player and has great offensive numbers as well. His overall case is convincing to be in the HOF.
September 18, 2021 at 8:18 am #172703I agree Edmonds should be in the HOF but the problem with your original post is you compared too guys who played different positions. That’s disingenuous, especially since one is more physically demanding than the other. It’s like comparing a goalie to a winger in hockey or comparing a center in basketball to a shooting guard. If you wanted to play up that Edmonds is worthy of the hall of fame you should have compared his stats to guys in the HOF who also played outfield.
September 18, 2021 at 8:26 pm #172733Like comparing a Harley Davidson to a Corvette.
September 19, 2021 at 1:42 am #172756IMO Jimmy and Scott will get in eventually. Both might be a veterans vote but I think they get in. Both were elite gloves and could hit a bit.
I mean both played a bit in the roid era. I think that holds them back a bit when it comes to acceptance and numbers. Loved both players.
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