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May 17, 2026 at 2:48 pm #307683
12:15 p.m.
RHP Dustin May (3-4, 4.81) vs. RHP Braxton Ashcraft (2-2, 3.09)
Cards.TV // KMOX // WIJRMay 21, 2026 at 7:33 am #307895One has to wonder what the Brewers FO and development staff saw in Kyle Harrison that the Cardinals did not. Between the Sonny Gray and Wilson Contreras trades, the Cardinals should have easily been able to acquire him. He still had 5 years of service time so he would have made sense to target. But the Brewers FO swept in after the Cards trades and got the best player out of the Red Sox who looks to be a front of the rotation starter.
May 21, 2026 at 8:11 am #307899One has to wonder what the Brewers FO and development staff saw in Kyle Harrison that the Cardinals did not.
I don’t think it was that. Rather its what we were offering. High priced vets with little or no value over their contract, or negative value. The Brewers offered controllable young talent.
May 21, 2026 at 8:29 am #307900Bling, the Cards easily offered more in value in each trade than the Brewers did overall so not that. Contreras has played very well for the Red Sox and Gray has value as well. Harrison was basically a non factor previously and had little value and had already been included in a salary dump in the Devers deal not too long ago as well.
May 21, 2026 at 8:37 am #307901Sonny has performed well too. I knew he was out at one point but he has an ERA under 3.00. Durbin on the other hand has been Victor Scott level bad with the bat.
Many people in the industry expected Durbin to regress as they didn’t think the metrics matched the performance and the Brewers saw that as well so they traded him.
May 21, 2026 at 8:45 am #307902It seems they wanted controllable young talent for him. They don’t just add up numbers off the trade value site.
May 21, 2026 at 8:56 am #307903The Red Sox in the off-season were in win now mode looking for players to make them better so I don’t think you are right there either. Gray and Contreras aren’t just numbers from a trade value site additions as they are more for a team wanting to win while Durbin may have been slightly more valuable on paper just due to years of control and salary. But those trade value sites don’t capture that teams in different places value things differently. Especially teams like the Red Sox who the money isn’t a problem.
May 21, 2026 at 9:04 am #307904Coming into this series the writing on the wall revealed Pittsburgh taking 2-3 games. The revenge factor runs deep when you have two teams that are fairly evenly matched such as these two squads playing this afternoon. If Skenes had been dealing today we would have bucked the revenge issue and taken this series. But since he’s not, let’s call it 5-3 Pirates today shall we.
On the din-din docket today will be a post game trip on over to Johnny’s Italian Steakhouse. Right now I’m thinking either the off-menu steak tartare or the medium rare ribeye. I’m thinking of throwing myself a curve ball for dessert tonight and not swinging on through Popeye’s for their scrumptious apple cinnamon pies. Instead, I think I’ll be picking up 3 glazed donuts from this wonderful little bakery here in town.
Go Birds! Today won’t be pretty, but I think we’ll beat up on those Redlegs this weekend.
May 21, 2026 at 9:30 am #307906The Brewers are a machine. Yes I know they haven’t won a world series but if that is the only way a franchise can be deemed a success that is a high bar. What they do on their payroll is amazing. Their torment of the Cubbies continues as they finished off the sweep at Wrigley last night. I know the Crew are a division foe of the Cards but there is something to the old saying of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
1. Brewers 29-18
2. Cards 28-20 (1.5)
3. Cubs 29-21 (1.5)
4. Reds 26-24 (4.5)
5. Pirates 25-24 (5.0)May 21, 2026 at 10:25 am #3079102B J. Wetherholt L
DH Ivan Herrera R
1B A. Burleson L
RF J. Walker R
3B Nolan Gorman L
SS Masyn Winn R
LF Jose Fermin R
C Pedro Pages R
CF Victor Scott LMay 21, 2026 at 10:54 am #307911
MrperkinsParticipantEvery day I look hopefully for the news that Svanson has been optioned. Each day I’m disappointed. At this point I’d rather try my luck with Matt Bowman or John Brebbia off the trash heap.
May 21, 2026 at 12:22 pm #307913Didn’t take long to get behind.
May 21, 2026 at 12:31 pm #307915Did Fermin push that over the wall for a Homer or not?
May 21, 2026 at 1:10 pm #307916Herrera ties it up with a big dong.
1-1 in the 4th now.
May 21, 2026 at 1:35 pm #307917I find our inconsistant hitting worrying, along with basepath gaffs and and frequent defensive lapses. I don’t know about the Cubs, but the Brewers are a little better than us…for now?
May 21, 2026 at 2:01 pm #307918I’m starting to get a bad feeling about this game.
May 21, 2026 at 2:03 pm #307919Just now tuned in and the box looks like last night’s game. Reminds me of Yogi…
May 21, 2026 at 2:11 pm #307920Svanson time.
May 21, 2026 at 2:19 pm #307921A death spiral.
May 21, 2026 at 2:34 pm #3079221982 willie
ParticipantI guess my banter on the pirates has lit a fire under them though i didnt figure it would exstiguish our bats.
May 21, 2026 at 2:48 pm #307923No runs last night.
2 runs so far today.
Anybody know why they can’t score?
Because nobody on the team can hit.
They will NOT finish above 500 this year.
Reds and Brewers on the road. Then the Cubs at home. Doesn’t look good in the next ten days.
May 21, 2026 at 3:07 pm #307924Young team and a long way to go this season. Little injury flareups and fatigue will pop up. We’ve been a little fortunate on the DL side of things. It won’t last. There will be some stretches like this. Thankfully we don’t play the Brewers this weekend.
May 21, 2026 at 3:22 pm #307925Well, the Pirates get well and regain a little confidence at the Cardinals expense with a series W on the road in StL. before the Bucs cross the border for 3 games with the Blue Jays. We get 3 games with the Reds who are now tied with the Bucs at the bottom of the NLC. The NLC’s compressed together tightly enough to where it won’t take long at all to be looking up at everyone else if you place a few L’s in the books. Hopefully the Redbirds, who have a much better W/L record when playing on the road, can add some W’s in Cincinnati this weeked.
May 21, 2026 at 4:37 pm #307926Pirates feeling feisty after taking 2 out of 7 against the Cards this year. Calm down Bucs. You are still tied for last in the division.
Wow, (mild) shots fired between the two NL Central rivals. https://t.co/2hBRQm80HV
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) May 21, 2026
May 21, 2026 at 4:40 pm #307927I would be fine with that.
My guess is we see two roster moves by the #STLCards tomorrow:
Matt Svanson and Thomas Saggese sent to Memphis
Ryan Fernandez and Bryan Torres brought up to STL.
— Josh Jacobs (@joshjaco98) May 21, 2026
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