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June 7, 2025 at 3:52 pm #284343
Yeah, and that particular BS has to be one of the most deceptive items ever printed in a box score. It was a real nice inning of work from Helsley in which he facde 3 consecutive MVP’s.
June 7, 2025 at 3:53 pm #284344
jj-cf-stlParticipantSome new guy hits a leadoff double. Who is that?
Look for a ball up, Victor
Edit-NadoJune 7, 2025 at 3:54 pm #284346I’ve been saying Gorman is due to start improving production wise. Let’s hope this is the start as his underlying data is looking much better.
June 7, 2025 at 3:54 pm #284347Perfect sac-bunt from Pages that turns into a base hit. That little item may send us home with W.
June 7, 2025 at 3:55 pm #284348Arenado in to pinch hit. Please just put the bat on the ball
June 7, 2025 at 3:56 pm #284349Arenado wins it! A weak little fly ball to left lands since there were 5 infielders
June 7, 2025 at 3:57 pm #284350That is a series win against the defending World Series champs who safe money has it on them repeating this year. 1 run allowed to the Dodgers in 2 games with their incredible lineup.
June 7, 2025 at 4:00 pm #284352Cubs also won. Pete Crow Armstrong is having a heck of a year and is in the running to be MVP unfortunately. Hopefully teams can figure him out and slow him down leading to a Cubs losing streak.
June 7, 2025 at 4:00 pm #284353May I point out that once again we couldn’t score any runs. We simply don’t have anybody that can hit.
We scored one run on a fluke play. And we scored another run darn near because of another fluke.
Sooner or later not having anybody that can hit is going to catch up with us.
June 7, 2025 at 4:03 pm #284354Rats, do the Dodgers have anyone that can hit? The Cards have outscored them 7 to 1 in this series? 1 run in 2 games must mean those guys clearly cannot hit.
June 7, 2025 at 4:31 pm #284357Holy Cow! I was sure that pesky ol’ second base bag was going to spell the end of a beautiful game. But no! But no! I knew that ball bouncing over Winn’s head tolled our death knell. How wrong was I? What a beautiful game that was. I raise a glass to Nolan Arenado, among many others who gave me a joyous evening of pleasure!
Dare we dream of a sweep?
June 7, 2025 at 4:32 pm #284358That RBI “base hit” from Nado would have scored the winning run whether or not a LF’er would have been there to squeeze that fly ball. Good W all across the board and I thought the outstanding baserunning from Winn to score the lead run in the 8th was the offensive play of the game.
June 7, 2025 at 4:54 pm #284360Rats, do the Dodgers have anyone that can hit? The Cards have outscored them 7 to 1 in this series? 1 run in 2 games must mean those guys clearly cannot hit.
Check out the averages of the Dodgers and then the Cardinals. The Doyers certainly do have people that can hit.
I am not talking 2-3 isolated games. I am talking the entire season so far.
June 7, 2025 at 5:15 pm #284361May I point out that once again we couldn’t score any runs. We simply don’t have anybody that can hit.
Cardinals ranks MLB in key offensive categories.
OPS-10th
Slug-12th
Runs-7th
OBP-7th
AVG-5th
TB-11thI don’t know how to get this through to you and your dog but this is a top 10 offense in all of baseball. That is a top 10 offense in MLB you are watching.
This is the stat you are hung up on.
HR-23rd
This team unless a couple people really make some power strides will likely only have 2-3 20 homer hitters and the rest of the regs will likely be in the 10-15 homer range. They might settle into a 140-150 home run club. Which will be bottom 3rd. So you may want to get used to it having a top 10-15 offense who doesn’t hit jimmy jacks that much.
June 7, 2025 at 6:34 pm #284362No, you are missing the point.
Just because none of those other teams can’t hit doesn’t mean that the Cardinals can.
Look at these averages:
Nootbaar .250
Pages .214
Contreras .250
Arenado .240
Scott .245
Walker .215
Gorman .200That’s pitiful. Years ago these players would probably be on the bench.
June 7, 2025 at 6:55 pm #284363I know how you feel about BA being the only stat that matters. At the end of the day the BA doesn’t matter, what matters is runs scored for a teams ability to win. The Cards are 7th in MLB in runs scored with 4.7 runs per game. The Dodgers are 1st with in runs and 2nd in runs per game at 5.6, but it is expected a lineup with 3 HOF players and spending $525 million with luxury tax added in is going to have a great offense.
June 7, 2025 at 7:50 pm #284364Dare we dream of a sweep?
This series had “Cardinals can sweep these guys” written all over it before the series started. But it’s obviously not a done deal just yet. To hold these mighty Dodgers to under 5 runs for a 3 game series would be quite the feat.
June 7, 2025 at 8:02 pm #284365The Cardinals are back to their season high water mark of 8 games over and, by my count, will get their 3rd chance at attaining 9 games above sea level when they go for the 3 game sweep of the Dodgers tomorrow afternoon. I can’t think of a better way to hit that 9 over even mark than to beat a very good Dodger team for a third consecutive time. If they can pull it off, they’ll do so with a 24 year old RHP’er taking a turn against a 37 year old Dodger LHP’er who I’d say is a pretty good bet as a fist ballot HOF’er. I’ll tune in to see that.
June 7, 2025 at 9:34 pm #284366While taking a fairly close look at individual hitting numbers for this team, it stood out to me that even though no one player has featured the sort of high impact bat that comes close to qualifying for MVP consideration, it’s entirely evident to me that the offensive attack that this team puts forth is extremely balanced in the sense that there are considerable contibutions almost everywhere up and down the list of position players that have received a substantial amount of playing time. That can be a really good thing and, if it continues to be the case, it’s my guess that this offense will generate enough runs to consistently produce W’s without featuring the sort of player that occupies the first 3 slots of the Dodger lineup.
June 8, 2025 at 1:38 am #2843672025 MLB team batting averages top 5:
Dodgers .266
Cubs .262
Yankees .257
Cardinals .257
As .256
MLB Average .244I wish the Cardinals could hit as well as anyone else in the MLB.
June 8, 2025 at 2:27 am #284368Careful now guys. Keep it up and you will convince me that this reset team has already resat – and that with nearly all the same old faces! I shudder to think of the explanation.
June 8, 2025 at 4:27 am #284370The reset better not be done but it is not nearly as bad as some make it out to be. We still need to upgrade areas.
June 8, 2025 at 8:26 am #284376Batting average DOES matter! If one bats 250 and the other 200 that matters! Would you rather have one out of 4 are one out of five! Pretty simple! A number of people on here have pointed to our team top five BA proves we are a good offense! I agree! We don’t hit for power but we battle, put the ball in play and that’s working so far!
You can bring in other stats and that’s fine but to claim BA doesn’t matter is just silly IMOJune 8, 2025 at 9:05 am #284377
jj-cf-stlParticipant“years ago” was years ago.
June 8, 2025 at 10:53 am #284383Rat I think we should take advice from that esteemed philospoher Al Davis when he said “just win baby.”
I will take a 2-1 victory over a 10-9 loss everyday.
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