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August 24, 2025 at 3:39 pm #291237
1:15 p.m.
RHP Miles Mikolas (6-10, 5.17) vs. RHP Braxton Ashcraft (4-2, 2.70)
FanDuel // KMOX // WIJRAugust 27, 2025 at 11:46 pm #291461At this point having Mikolas pitch is just trolling the fan base.
To me, it’s a fire-able offense.
August 28, 2025 at 5:25 am #291462At this point having Mikolas pitch is just trolling the fan base.
What are the alternatives?
August 28, 2025 at 6:44 am #291464Mikolas has been decent at home for the past two months but terrible on the road.
Home: 2, 0, 0, 2, 3 ER avg 5 1/3 IP
Road: 6, 8, 5, 5, 4 ER avg < 4 IP
I offer no defense for the offense.August 28, 2025 at 8:07 am #291468Ha ha, yeah on the offense but what can you do?
As far as Mikolas goes is there absolutely not 2 starters at AAA that we could give 2-3 starts each to just to give them a peek at the majors?
Would that screw something up with the 40 man roster?
Maybe they are not ready for the bigs but then again neither is Mikolas and to me any starts he makes going forward are wasted opportunities.
August 28, 2025 at 8:52 am #291471
jj-cf-stlParticipantMaybe Bill can get a legacy discount on Mikolas for 2026.
August 28, 2025 at 11:19 am #291476At this point everyone knows, including Mikolas, that they are just playing out the string with him. It is just as well, as in the long run we are probably better off letting the prospects pitch at the lower levels, and get through the rest of this season using Mikolas. We are not going anywhere but the golf course in October, whether Miles takes a few turns or a younger guy.
Speaking of young guys, this Bubba Chandler for Pittsburgh looks good in early trials. Add him to Skenes, and if Oviedo can get to being a starter again, they might have a nice starting corp.
August 28, 2025 at 11:54 am #291478
jj-cf-stlParticipantKeller has club control left, Burrows looks good, Modzi too. They shut us out 3 in a row, not long ago.
August 28, 2025 at 12:50 pm #291482In past times i might have taken the afternoon off and headed downtown to take in the game. Nice day for it.
August 28, 2025 at 12:50 pm #291483“At this point having Mikolas pitch is just trolling the fan base.”
“What are the alternatives?”
I would say there are two alternatives. One involves a AAA pitcher. Memphis plays in the International League, home to 20 teams. In the International League this year, 18 starting pitchers have made at least 19 starts. The lowest ERA and 2nd-lowest WHIP of those 18 pitchers belongs to a journeyman reliever who has been converted to starting this year. His name is Curtis Taylor and he pitches for Memphis.
It doesn’t matter now, since the last wildcard team is 7 1/2 games ahead of the Cards, but a few weeks ago Pallante or Mikolas could and should have been replaced by Taylor in the rotation. Not because Taylor is going to be a rotation fixture going forward, but because the thing that absolutely is NOT working needs to be abandoned even if it means trying something unfamiliar that might also fail. Taylor has earned a chance. You never know when you might get a Simontacchi Hot Streak from some minor league veteran. (For you kids out there, Jason Simontacchi was a non-prospect in his late 20’s having success in AAA — just like Curtis Taylor right now — when the Cards called him up in 2002. In his first 13 major league starts he posted an ERA of 2.82.)
The other alternative was used to great effect in Detroit last year by manager A. J. Hinch. He spent the second half of 2024 rallying the Tigers to a playoff spot by rejecting his lesser starting pitchers and utilizing good relievers to eat up many “starter innings.” Basically he used 3 or 4 conventional starters for much of the second half, and fed the rest of the starts to bullpen guys like Holton, Brieske, Faedo, et. al. It was creative & risky and it worked spectacularly well.
August 28, 2025 at 2:12 pm #291487I’ve been out mowing on the John Deere, push mowing, jogging, and watering the landscape.
Do we have any runs yet?
August 28, 2025 at 2:13 pm #291488Pat Murphy and the Brewers have used that routine all season long. I’ll have to check the standings to conclude whether or not it’s a viable approach.
August 28, 2025 at 3:10 pm #291490One measly run through 6 innings, rat. Because we don’t have anyone who can hit.
August 28, 2025 at 3:17 pm #291492
jj-cf-stlParticipantLate and close.
August 28, 2025 at 3:21 pm #291493
jj-cf-stlParticipantA double and a HR. Power and crooked numbers go well together.
August 28, 2025 at 3:49 pm #291495
jj-cf-stlParticipant4-1 STL
FinalAugust 28, 2025 at 4:01 pm #291496
stlcard25ParticipantWe managed a series split, which with this team’s ability and motivation, isn’t too bad.
August 28, 2025 at 4:08 pm #291498Obviously the entire advantage is to the Bucs in the sense that they split on the road with the team they’re chasing in their quest to relinquish the NLC cellar.
August 28, 2025 at 5:19 pm #291501Judging from the box score and gamecast pbp, it seems like a good game, pretty well played by two evenly matched teams.
August 28, 2025 at 5:19 pm #291502A nice, comfortable game that one could sit back and enjoy, though I would have enjoyed a bit more offense even more.
August 28, 2025 at 6:35 pm #291504And the Cubs lost again to the Giants. 4-3 San Francisco your final at Candlestick Park.
And the DBacks beat the Brewers again. 6-4 Arizona your final at County Stadium.
The Cubs are missing chances to get back into the NL Central race. They now stand 6.5 games out with only about 28 games left.
August 28, 2025 at 6:55 pm #291506Cubs only have 28 games remaining in which to be the Cubs. They’ll probably scavenge the final NLWC.
August 28, 2025 at 9:23 pm #291515And our old nemesis, Kyle Schwarber, slammed four homeruns tonight in Philadelphia.
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