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September 19, 2017 at 9:22 am #33416
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ParticipantJust finished doing a spread sheet with the stats of every player in the system. OPS is just one measure, but here are the players who came in above .800 this season, based upon where they had the most at bats –
Memphis –
Voit – .972
Ravelo – .863
Kelly – .834
O’Neill – .820
Valera – .819
Wisdom – .817
Bader – .816
Martini – .805Springfield –
Anthony Garcia – .825
Knizner – .820
Adolis Garcia – .817
Arozarena was at .783Palm Beach –
Young – .830
Peoria –
Trosclair – .832
State College –
Mendoza – .896
Hurst was at .786.Johnson City –
Pinder – .880
Ynfante – .865
Baldes – .847
Lopez – .813GCL Cardinals –
Bryant – .878
Machado – .817DSL Cardinals –
Herrera – .866
Jimenez – .851
Ozuna – .818September 19, 2017 at 11:45 am #33423Might want to lower the bar a bit for peoria and Palm beach. Those two are notorious for being two of the worst places in the minors to hit.
Florida state league is awful in general.
September 19, 2017 at 12:00 pm #33426PadsFS
ParticipantKnizner stands out given his position.
September 19, 2017 at 12:45 pm #33436Seems about 90 % of your list are OFs.Few other position guys;Ravelo 1B,Valera inf,Wisdom 3B,Knizner C,Andy Young 3B-2B,Trosclair 1B,Mendoza 3B?Cards really need to have better luck developing more non-OF impact guys.
September 19, 2017 at 1:20 pm #33440bccran
ParticipantPalm Beach is particularly tough. All the position players (besides Young) had an OPS in the .600s.
Not one in the .700s.At Peoria, The players in the .700s were O’Keefe, McCarvel, Robertson, and Jackson.
September 19, 2017 at 1:45 pm #33441For reference, as a whole, the FSL league average in OPS was .680 this year. MWL league average was up to .703 with PCL (.774) and TL (.713).
September 19, 2017 at 2:10 pm #33443bccran
ParticipantGood reference points.
To Brian’s statement, however, that we don’t have any “big bats” in the system, it just places emphasis that if Piscotty and Grichuk aren’t going to provide it, our only hopes at this time may be Voit, O’Neill, Bader, Wisdom, or A. Garcia. All at the upper end of the system.
September 19, 2017 at 2:10 pm #33444Young’s OPS was .830 on average, but was very, very different by level – .924 at Peoria in 1H but just .715 at PB in 2H over a comparable number of at-bats. Most of the drop was power.
September 19, 2017 at 2:54 pm #33447PadsFS
ParticipantSee Arozarena had an .805 OPS at Palm Beach, which is a 134 wRC+. Very promising. Darren Seferina was next closest with a 124 wRC+, while Sierra had a 117 wRC+. The cream still rises to the top with the real prospects even in Palm Beach.
September 19, 2017 at 4:10 pm #33452Anyone besides me who would like to see Arozarena playing 2B next year. He has played it before. Certainly he would have a clearer path.
September 19, 2017 at 4:31 pm #33455That would be great if he could be at least average to a little above average there.
September 19, 2017 at 5:21 pm #33458bccran, I see you have Knizner listed at .820. The Milb site has him listed with 182 at bats in Springfield with an OPS of .833; at Peoria he had 179 at bats with an OPS of .805. I am guessing the .820 is an average?
September 19, 2017 at 5:37 pm #33459bccran
ParticipantSpringfield Cardinals stats
September 19, 2017 at 5:41 pm #33460Having a bunch of above average bats is not exactly a downside.
And kelly and knizner both have the “big bat” argument due to position.
September 19, 2017 at 5:44 pm #33462bccran
ParticipantSorry, if you go to any player’s stats on Milb.com, it will give you their stats at each level played in 2017 plus their overall stats for the season. I used their total 2017 stats when listing OPS.
September 19, 2017 at 5:54 pm #33464bccran, thanks! I was looking at the roster info on the individual team Milb sites and did not realize you could view the average for the total season. I am still learning so thanks for your patience and for clarifying! 🙂
September 20, 2017 at 11:42 pm #33593“Might want to lower the bar a bit for peoria and Palm beach. Those two are notorious for being two of the worst places in the minors to hit.”
Eliezar Alvarez went .879 last year in Peoria at about one year younger than league average age. Guess what he was worth to the Cardinals?
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