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  • #38377
    Brian Walton
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    Scott Boras has spoken out against the new posting rules which enable the owners to pay far below market value for overseas players. The first example is Ohtani.

    https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2017/11/28/scott-boras-is-upset-with-the-new-posting-system-for-international-players/?sf174632799=1

    I know there has already been a lot of Ohtani discussion on the Rumors thread, but it may be easier for all to find by having the general (posting rules) or specific (Ohtani) talk here. Just a thought, not a mandate, though!

    #38465
    Brian Walton
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    From Morosi:

    Shohei Ohtani development: Multiple @MLB team execs believe Ohtani may actually prefer to sign with a club that doesn’t already have a Japanese star; Ohtani’s camp has not commented on that.

    https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/936600677220003841

    #38472
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    Well, that could be even better for the Cardinals if they woke up and went big on a Marlins deal – to possibly lure Ohtani without taking on Darvish would be ideal.

    And then you could pitch them head-to-head against each other if Darvish signed with the Cubs.

    Of course, if they come in to a club together as a package deal, then they are going to a club that doesn’t “already” have a Japanese star…

    #38516
    Brian Walton
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    For those who want to read the specifics of the new posting agreement that was ratified unanimously by MLB owners:

    https://twitter.com/MLB_PR/status/936673766939164674

    #38615
    Brian Walton
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    Ohtani is to meet with interested teams this week in Los Angeles. Cards are not mentioned, but the list is not definitive.

    https://nypost.com/2017/12/02/shohei-ohtani-to-meet-with-mlb-teams-this-coming-week/

    #38655
    NJ315
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    He told the Yankees he is not signing with them.

    #38657
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    “The Shohei Ohtani sweepstakes are heating up. The #Yankees have been told they are out of the running, while #Mariners and #SFGiants are reportedly among the finalists: https://atmlb.com/2jGMVeU

    That would be rough if the Giants got both Stanton and Ohtani…

    #38658
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    I guess right now, I’m hoping he goes to either the Angels or Mariners

    https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-red-sox/2017/11/30/red-sox-trade-rumor-boston

    “Teams reportedly still in the mix include the San Francisco Giants, Seattle Mariners, Los Angeles Dodgers, and Los Angeles Angels.”

    #38662
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    Looks like the Padres are in the mix as well:

    https://twitter.com/BerniePleskoff/status/937493347895205888

    “#Mariners, #SFGiants and #Padres reported to be receiving a meeting with Shohei Ohtani.”

    #38663
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    Cardinals out, Cubs “possibly” still in

    https://sports.yahoo.com/shohei-ohtani-tracker-favorite-team-015143749.html

    Still rooting for either the Angels or Mariners

    #38672
    Brian Walton
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    From Mark Feinsand, MLB.com:

    Here’s what we seem to know Sunday night re: Ohtani based on sources/reports: Finalists include SF, SEA, SD, LAD, CHC, TEX Teams eliminated: OAK, TOR, ATL, MIL, STL, AZ, NYM, NYY, BOS, TB, PIT, MIN, CHW, WAS Unknown status: LAA, HOU, CIN, COL, CLE, MIA, BAL, DET, KC, PHI

    https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/937529086880223232

    #38677
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    The Angels do appear to still be in the market
    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/12/mariners-giants-will-meet-with-shohei-ohtani-yankees-out-of-the-running.html

    Though if his preference is for a smaller market on the West Coast, that appears to favor Seattle & San Diego, with Seattle getting the nod due to the DH.

    Seattle also has more of an Asian influence in terms of culture.

    #38687
    gscottar
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    If he ends up going to the Cubs I am going to be sick. That would give them yet another superstar at basically the league minimum.

    #38692
    Onyxgem
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    Yup that would be disgusting for him to end up with the Cubs, and from reports I have seen doesn’t look like Cards even tried hard to get him which I see as a stupid decision.

    #38694
    gscottar
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    I agree. He has made it clear that money is not the issue.

    #39011
    NJ315
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    Goes to the Angels

    #39012
    bicyclemike
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    Was hoping he would go to the Mariners since we were not really in the running. Angels is okay though – anyone in the AL is fine. Makes sense to go to the AL anyway as DH would be a good way to utilize his bat. But then they would have to play an aging Pujols at first base.

    #39014
    gscottar
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    I’m just thrilled he didn’t pick the Cubs!! Sorry Cubbies you are going to have to spend some money like everyone else. Whew, we dodged a bullet there!

    #39053
    CariocaCardinal
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    By going to the Angels he made it clear that not only is money not an issue but neither is winning!

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