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July 1, 2025 at 8:34 pm #286259
Cards are in trouble. No Herrera. And now it looks like Burly is repeating his 2nd half swoon from last season.
Last 7 games? .153/.138/.321/.459
Okay, could just be a bad week. Let’s hope so, because if Burly can’t hit and with no return of Herrera…this team will continue to struggle scoring runs.
July 1, 2025 at 8:40 pm #286261No, he is not collapsing. He is just like Nootbaar. He is trending to about where he normally is. Nootbaar is a .240 career hitter and Burleson is a .260 career hitter.
I hope nobody is expecting either one of these two to end up being .300 hitters.
There’s a reason people study history.
July 1, 2025 at 9:38 pm #286266Well, listening to Chip & Brad one would think Burly is the next Berkman or Larry Walker.
And let’s face it…he WAS really good in June. But sadly, you’re probably right…he is who he is.
July 1, 2025 at 9:47 pm #286268Haha…Berky ripped 42 taters and collected 128 RBI’s in his age 26 season.
July 1, 2025 at 9:52 pm #286269I said a couple of weeks ago that we had three 300 hitters in our lineup and we would sink or swim on what they do! Since then Herrera is hurt and the other two have collapsed, so we can’t score! Over 1/3 of our games since June 1 we have scored 2 runs are less! Rats is onto something! lol!
July 1, 2025 at 10:16 pm #286270They place 4th in the NL with 403 runs scored, so they’re not entirely horrible on offense. I happen to think that the primary issue is that this team doesn’t generate near enough key RBI hits in game changing situations. Herrera and a couple of others have provided the big hit at times, but this season’s edition hasn’t featured that special type of bat that consistently seems to produce the key RBI hit that alters the course of a game. Hopefully someone will emerge with that sort of bat in second half. Donovan, who many consider to be our premier hitter, had a chance to be that guy in tonight’s game with 2 runners aboard and 2 outs in a 1-0 game in the 9th and featured what I thought was one of the worst efforts I’ve seen him put forth at the plate all season long.
July 2, 2025 at 10:15 am #286280We won’t know if Burly will collapse in the second half until the season ends.
We are an odd club – real streaky. We go stretches where we score in bunches, then we can’t put runs on the board at all. We scored 16 runs in the first two games of the Cubs series, then were blanked in the final two.
We score what, 21 runs in Cleveland? Included in that was overcoming a 6 run deficit to win the second game. Now here we are shut out in two straight.
Overall I think we are pretty good offensively, but these stretches of feeble production are frustrating.
July 2, 2025 at 10:31 am #286283ADM: Don’t forget Chip and Brad are paid shills. Nice guys they might be but telling it like it is ain’t part of their job description.
July 2, 2025 at 11:34 am #286286
jj-cf-stlParticipantWe don’t run the bases that well, besides Winn and Scott. The key hits to drive in runners can be streaky, but our sac fly and productive outs shouldn’t disappear. Man on 3rd, less than two outs needs to score more often. I don’t know the numbers but they should be poor.
July 2, 2025 at 11:57 am #286288
jj-cf-stlParticipantTwo leadoff doubles still there at 2B with one down, in the first two innings.
July 2, 2025 at 2:43 pm #286304I don’t think Burleson will collapse. I see him settling around a .760-.770 OPS. Not bad for a complementary player, but this offense relies on him as a cornerstone for lack of better options.
July 2, 2025 at 7:07 pm #286318Welcome, Mort.
July 2, 2025 at 7:54 pm #286322Thanks for having me, Brian. I used this handle at STLToday, which I left voluntarily. I prefer your moderation standards. I like the respectful discourse and smart Cardinal threads I’ve seen here.
July 4, 2025 at 10:14 pm #286420Last 15 games he’s hitting .228.
Burly is fool’s gold. Gets hot for 6 weeks and many think he’s 1971 Joe Torre.
As another poster wrote…he’s a .260 hitter. Not a prototypical #3 hitter.July 5, 2025 at 7:56 pm #286532Yes, welcome Mort. I like the handle. Fortunately I paid off my particular Mort Gage in 2018, so he does not have his hand out every month anymore asking for money. 😀
Good Cardinal talk here – history to contemporary, and everything from good statistical analysis stuff to funny, light hearted and a bit cynical commentary at times.
July 5, 2025 at 10:26 pm #286534And here I was guessing that maybe Mort Gage was the name of an obscure lefty for the old Louisville Colonels who perfected the fine art of doctoring the baseball…
July 6, 2025 at 11:18 am #286549Thanks, Mike! And I assure you the Gage family would never have resorted to the ungentlemanly act of baseball doctoring. We played the game with utmost honesty. My late, great father wouldn’t even allow us to throw curve balls because he considered them a form of lying.
July 6, 2025 at 11:53 am #286555
jj-cf-stlParticipantMLB batting third, has a BA of .259, for this season.
July 7, 2025 at 5:17 pm #286719Since June 1:
Burleson.305/.883
Hererra .302/.813
Arenado .267/.710
Contreras .266/.868
Gorman .250/.847
Donovan .231/.674
Winn .223/.568
Pages .208/.582
Scott .195/.569
Nootbaar.168/.562That’s all the MLB hitters who qualify over that time frame
July 7, 2025 at 5:29 pm #286721Haha!…So, I’m assuming your Dad’s first name wasn’t spelled, Gaylord or Burleigh?
July 7, 2025 at 8:25 pm #286729Fair enough…but…
Last 7 games .192/.646
Last 15 games .207/.733It’s fair to question if Burly can remain a hot hitter or if he will collapse in the second half as he did last year.
I don’t have the answer as only time will tell.
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