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August 18, 2021 at 11:00 pm #170142
Can we start a get rid of Reyes campaign? I don’t know about 27 saves. All I see are blown saves and walks. The guy cannot perform under pressure and needs to go!
August 18, 2021 at 11:08 pm #170144Change your thread title to Get Rid of Shildt
August 19, 2021 at 9:13 am #170165Reyes has the best save conversion percentage in the NL of all the relievers still in the league. Only Kimbrel had a better percentage. 27 saves in 29 opportunities.
Sure, Reyes has 6 losses and has been shaky lately but he is still one of the best relievers out there. To get rid of him is crazy.
August 19, 2021 at 9:34 am #170170bccran
ParticipantReyes in 2021 –
IP – 54 2/3
Hits – 31
Ks – 68
ERA – 2.471st season in the closer’s role. And you want to get rid of him? The answer may be to give him a little more rest between appearances at this stage of the season. His only issue is that he’s walked too many people. But most of the time he’s gotten out of it. He’s extremely talented.
August 19, 2021 at 10:13 am #170173relief said:
I don’t know about 27 saves. All I see are blown saves and walks.
I bet you did not know that Reyes has just two blown saves all season. His save conversion rate of 93.1% (taking into account losses and blown saves alike) is second highest in the entire National League.
Of all the things wrong with the Cardinals, the closer should be way down the page.
A bad night and people overreact. It is as sure as the sun rising in the east…
August 19, 2021 at 10:42 am #170176I dont think it’s over-reacting when Reyes has walked 42 batters in 55 innings. That is horribly pathetic. As I’ve said many times, he is an accident waiting to happen. We are lucky – VERY LUCKY – he hasnt blown a bunch more saves.
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August 19, 2021 at 11:23 am #170177bccran
ParticipantWhen he gets into trouble with walks, he Ks people and gets out of it. Can you imagine how even better he’ll be if he gains more control?
August 19, 2021 at 11:38 am #170178Let’s take a step back for a second and consider the following:
1. Experience – Reyes was one of the top prospects in the Redbirds system before being beset with injuries. This is the first full season he will complete in three or four years.
2. Control Issues – he is not the only Cardinal pitcher experiencing control issues. There has to be more to the story here. The Front Office and Coaching Staff need to take a step back and ask themselves if they are missing something or doing something fundamentally wrong in their approach.
3. Stats – Reyes’ overall stats are good. The exceptions are walks and wild pitches. This is an area that he and the coaching staff need to work on.I see Reyes as a valuable asset with room for improvement. The question is whether the Cardinals have the right mix of resources to assist in this improvement effort.
August 19, 2021 at 12:11 pm #170181A much larger worry about Reyes is his durability. His performance this year, apart from the odd blip, has been excellent. The question is, can he stay healthy.
August 19, 2021 at 1:27 pm #170187Odd blip?????
I dont think 42 walks in 55 innings can be considered a blip. More like an atomic blast.
CIF?
What’s for din-din today?August 19, 2021 at 1:42 pm #170188We’ve all got our blips, man. I guess it depends what you stack them up against.
We went Asian for din-din this evening – chicken cashews with rice. I’m at the moment munching on a Magnum double chocolate bar dessert.
August 19, 2021 at 2:12 pm #170190wow talk about no clue….
get rid of Reyes…come on have a clue about baseball before posting crazy ideas.
August 19, 2021 at 3:05 pm #170198Sometimes i think some of these threads are started because someone is bored and 100% purely trolling. It’s probably a defense mechanism to keep my faith in humanity 🤦♂️
August 19, 2021 at 3:38 pm #170199I don’t know why Shildt doesn’t use the guy that can get the good teams out.
August 19, 2021 at 4:18 pm #170200Reyes can get the good teams out. However, Shildt does need to figure out that he shouldn’t just automatically pick a reliever based on the inning. He should know how a reliever is pitching at that time and how much he has used the relievers recently. Go a little more on matchups.
August 19, 2021 at 4:21 pm #170201bccran
ParticipantWhitey and Tony never went with matchups in the 9th inning of a close game. They had their closer, period. Whether it was Sutter, Smith, Eck, Izzy, etc. That’s the way most managers are.
August 19, 2021 at 4:43 pm #170202Just because they did it, doesn’t always make it right. Their relievers also blew saves and lost games.
August 19, 2021 at 5:17 pm #170203Here are some saves rates for some of the past great relievers:
Mariano Rivera (89% lifetime) – 6 of 19 seasons 90% or above save percentage
Trevor Hoffman (89%) – 8 of 18 seasons 90 % or above
Lee Smith (82%) – 2 of 18 season 90% or above
Francisco Rodriguez (85%) – 7 of 15 seasons 90% or above
John Franco (81%) – 3 of 21 seasons 90% or above
Dennis Eckersley (85%) – 2 of 13 seasons 90% or above
Craig Kimbrel (90%) – 7 of 12 seasons 90% or above
Bruce Sutter (75%) – 0 of 12 seasons 90% or above (highest 85%)
Aroldis Chapman (89%) – 5 of 12 seasons 90% or aboveThat’s the top 5 relievers on lifetime saves list plus a few others.
Alex Reyes (94%) – 93% save percentage in 2021.
August 19, 2021 at 5:41 pm #170204bccran
ParticipantSo you’re saying Reyes is one heck of a closer in 2021?
August 19, 2021 at 8:10 pm #170208Saves, blown saves, and holds are pretty goofy stats that I don’t ever trust as stand alone measures.
August 19, 2021 at 9:04 pm #170212I’m guessing Reyes saves % are over the whole season. Wonder what it is lately, say over the last 2 months. Bet its alot lower. Sadly in sports you’re only as good as your last win. The dog when you don’t win. Hes young and strong but sonetimes wild.Gotta blame coaching for leaving him in when hes going haywire.Theres other pitchers in the pen.
August 19, 2021 at 9:25 pm #170218The problem started when Shildt took Cabrera out after just 7 pitches. Why not let him go out for the 2nd inning?
August 20, 2021 at 7:49 am #170233No Reyes, we win. Hmmm.
August 20, 2021 at 8:51 am #170243No Yadi, we win. Hmmm
August 20, 2021 at 8:59 am #170245Public service advisory:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
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