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March 11, 2022 at 11:10 am #180593
stlcard25ParticipantThe Cards strike first!!
Cardinals, Drew VerHagen Agree To Two-Year Deal https://t.co/fPGXDOEJbS pic.twitter.com/8Jk21vRZcE
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) March 11, 2022
March 11, 2022 at 11:48 am #180596Who is Drew VerHagen? What is he going to do for us?
UPDATE: I just checked his numbers. Not pitched in the bigs since 2019. And the previous few years he wasn’t very good. So, I will ask again – what is he going to do for us?
March 11, 2022 at 11:55 am #180597Spot starter and long relief probably.
A classic LHF signing (low hanging fruit).
March 11, 2022 at 12:09 pm #180598
Pork TwainParticipantIs clicking on links disabled for you guys? I will speak to management and see if I can get that fixed for you.
Cardinals Sign Drew VerHagen To Two-Year Deal
While the 31-year-old VerHagen probably wasn’t predicted by many as the first post-lockout domino to fall, he’ll head back to the big leagues not only on a guaranteed contract but on a multi-year arrangement. The 6’6″ righty struggled for much of his six seasons with the Tigers, pitching to a 5.11 ERA over the life of 199 big league frames. His two-year stint overseas changed his fortunes, however, as VerHagen broke out as a key member of the Nippon-Ham Fighters’ bullpen.
In two seasons with the Fighters, VerHagen notched a 3.51 ERA in 2017 1/3 innings while punching out a quarter of his opponents against a strong 7.2% walk rate. He’s long had decent velocity (94 mph average) on his sinker and has a track record of inducing grounders at a high rate (53.9% in the Majors) — which fits in well with the Cardinals’ otherworldy infield defense.
March 11, 2022 at 12:14 pm #180600I did read the link and I stand by my assessment of him. Spot starter and long relief.
March 11, 2022 at 12:36 pm #180601He did OK for the Canned Hams so what could go wrong. Mo might figure its easier to find them now than well into the season like he had to do last year. I wish the new guy well.
March 11, 2022 at 3:21 pm #1806081982 willie
ParticipantJust another case of low hanging hope for greatness fruit. I would love to be proved wrong though.
March 11, 2022 at 3:38 pm #180610Lars Nootbaar and Drew VerHagen I like it.
March 11, 2022 at 4:22 pm #180613“Just another case of low hanging hope for greatness fruit. I would love to be proved wrong though”
Why do people say ridiculous things like this? You nor most Cardinal fans know whether this will be a good signing or not. Just wait and see before you say anything.
March 11, 2022 at 8:07 pm #180623At The Cardinal Nation, @bt_newberry compares RHP Drew VerHagen with earlier #stlcards pitchers signed out of Asia. (free) https://t.co/c1xGjSeTME pic.twitter.com/46DjS1eLe3
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) March 12, 2022
March 11, 2022 at 11:33 pm #1806272,017 1/3 innings?
March 12, 2022 at 7:32 am #180628Compressed schedule – fewer days off
All doubleheader games nine full innings
Minor league options limited to five per season
Many pitchers coming off 2021 injuries
No more than 13 pitchers active allowedPut that all together and the pitching depth is sure to be tested again. I can’t understand why having more arms can be a bad thing. Not every signing can be a Cy Young candidate.
March 12, 2022 at 9:16 am #180633
jj-cf-stlParticipant“No more than 13 pitchers active allowed”
Thanks for that.
On VerHagen, the Asian league signings by STL have a solid track record. I’m willing to expect more of the same.
March 12, 2022 at 9:20 am #180634Not sure I like the 5 options per season limit. I guess we will see how it goes. A team beset by injuries to the pitching staff could really be taxed.
March 12, 2022 at 9:35 am #180635I believe the players wanted an options limit because of the disruption to the player and his family when going up and down. Five options could still mean as many as 10 moves during a six-month period, almost always with little or no notice.
Update: This is from The Athletic.
“Of the six players that were optioned up or down double-digit times last year, five were arms. To some extent, teams were using the option rule to carry an extra reliever in their bullpen, and to some extent, that practice will be tougher this season.”
March 12, 2022 at 9:36 am #180636When I asked Mo about the impact of the options limit, he brought up the 13 pitchers maximum as a bigger challenge as he sees it.
March 12, 2022 at 10:01 am #1806371982 willie
ParticipantGamecard I can give my opinion and say what I want as long as it doesn’t step on any guidelines or make fun of the players in any way. I paid to do so. You are welcome to do the same.
March 12, 2022 at 11:56 am #180645Another thing to consider is that it is still possible that MLB allows teams to have expanded rosters for the first month or two of the season, which would mean each team could have more than 13 pitchers. I think that is still being debated.
March 12, 2022 at 12:48 pm #180648GameCard said
Just wait and see before you say anything.
I tend to want to see what happens with prospects once they reach the upper levels, so maybe I’m not one to say. None-the-less, prognostication is sort of what this site is all about, more or less. Hot stovin is the name of the game with snow on the ground.
March 12, 2022 at 1:12 pm #180650I love the limited options clause in the new agreement. Moving guys up and down every week or so was ridiculous. I understand injury and usage issues, but you need some stability as well. Manage your team for the marathon, not to play every game like it is game 7.
Cards have a good track record of bringing pitchers with success in the Pacific Rim, at least for the first year. They seem to bring something that opponents don’t expect. By year two the magic rubs off some though, so giving Mr. Ver Hagen a 2 year deal is a tad risky.
March 12, 2022 at 8:42 pm #180656Nationals signed Cishek for 1.75mm. One of the most consistent relievers in the majors. Would have seemed like a better option.
March 12, 2022 at 9:28 pm #180661Yep, Cards just trying to find Mikolas In A Bottle with this signing……though that bottle did sour after a year. I trust our scouts with this signing. He must have righted the ship over in the Pacific Rim after an earlier unimpressive ML body of work.
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