January 18, 2018 at 2:33 pm #42070thejagerParticipantPaid - Annual
i disagree with:
Baez over Wong…but Baez hits HRs i guess…both are good defenders
Heyward over Fowler…last year especially and that was an injured Fowler too
and maybe if you did Quintana over Weaver i think Wacha is at worse even as Hendricks it might better show the disparity
bullpen seems a lot closer as Wilson was not good as a Cub last year, and MOrrow hasnt ever closed and has 18 total saves not to mention only two last year and those are it since 2008 i think…AND last year was pretty much his first year where he wasnt being used as a starter so his pedigree as dominant reliever is basically based on one year…Strop and Duensing are solid though…i just dont see less question marks about their pen than what we have
Matheny may be worse than MAddon
but i think Maddux is better than Hickey even though i like Hickey a lot
GM…well i prefer Moz…even if i am the poster boy for crazy trades around here…you want splashes and spending money and maybe a WS thrown in as the farm system crumbles Epstein is your man…consistency even at the expense of fanfare and maybe the playoffs a few years…MOz is the guy IMOJanuary 18, 2018 at 2:40 pm #42072
Just my personal opinion Brian. I should have stated that in the post.January 18, 2018 at 2:41 pm #42073OnyxgemParticipantFree
I disagree Epstein >>>> MO and it is not even close, only thing better MO is at is feeding a great line of BS to the Cards fans.January 18, 2018 at 2:48 pm #42075
VEB did a more detailed comparison between the two teams using analytics and concluded we were only four games behind. I would consider that to be generous.January 18, 2018 at 3:06 pm #42079thejagerParticipantPaid - Annual
true…though that was projections…
how accurate have those been the last couple years? feel free to make your own decisions on their accuracy…but to me the trend seems to be…that it is hard to make an forecast that are accurate…so using them as proof of equality or inequality seems a stretch at best
2017January 18, 2018 at 3:16 pm #42081
They need some more dombrowski (not much, some).
They’ve got talent. They’ve got trade pieces. They don’t have the stones to go get great players.
January 18, 2018 at 3:23 pm #42083mudvilleParticipantPaid - Annual
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I’m pretty sure its too early to compare MO to Epstein. Lets make that judgement in another year or two when the Cubs’ star players are getting to be free agents, and their farm system doesn’t have much to support the big club. I get the distinct impression that the Cubs’ ownership does not want to go over he luxury tax threshold.January 18, 2018 at 5:06 pm #42092Brian WaltonKeymasterPaid - Annual
Bottom line, Epstein has three rings in 15 years. Mo has one in 10 years. However, Theo has also enjoyed huge payrolls and made a lot of mistakes (mostly with Boston) that were absorbed, ones the Cards, with less resources, would not have been able to recover from.January 18, 2018 at 8:00 pm #42102
That doesnt lessen him… People make mistakes.
Sometimes not trying is the mistake. Especially when you have stagnated a bit (or a lot).January 18, 2018 at 8:18 pm #42103Brian WaltonKeymasterPaid - Annual
Mistakes costing over a quarter of a billion dollars, according to Forbes, who labeled him the most overrated executive of the decade.January 18, 2018 at 8:39 pm #42108
He broke two century long curses and his “mistakes” didn’t cost the red sox even half a decade.
Rather hard to be overrated.January 19, 2018 at 2:44 am #42116forsch31ParticipantFree
Deep pockets can cover up many mistakes. I don’t see where the Cardinals could afford to have those kind of mistakes. The Cubs and Red Sox can.January 19, 2018 at 11:35 am #42132
I think the Cardinals can afford more than we are led to believe. They just choose not to.January 19, 2018 at 11:52 am #42135mudvilleParticipantPaid - Annual
But who wants to be stuck in a mistake they made for years and years? Think about the Red Sox and Price. They’re paying him $31M AVV for the next five years, and he might be spending that time in the bullpen. Then, there’s Heyward. Yikes.January 19, 2018 at 1:53 pm #42139PadsFSParticipantFree
I was discussing the Cubs’ new hitting coach with a Cubs’ homer who said Davis is going to be a really great hitting coach, look what he did with the Red Sox!
It’s a proven approach for Davis, who served as the Red Sox’s hitting coach for the past three season. In that time, Boston led the league in runs and pitches per plate appearance. The Red Sox also posted an on-base percentage of .334, which was tied for tops in baseball, and was second with a .268 batting average in three years under Davis’ watch.
Yet the Red Sox spent $368.0M on salary on just position players over those three years, or $122.6M. They also had the #1 farm system in baseball in 2013, which produced Bogaerts, Benintendi, Betts, Bradley, etc.
To tack on to that point and tie in with what yall are saying, they wasted $34.5M of that $368.0M on Napoli, Victorio, and Craig in 2015, $42.5M of that in 2016 on Sandoval, Castillo, Craig, and Hill, and $38.5M of that in 2017 on Castillo, Craig, and Sandoval.
They are on track for blowing $29.0M already in salary for 2018 AND 2019 on Sandoval and Castillo alone. I can’t imagine the angst that Cardinals’ management would feel if they did similar deals (one of which was ironically theirs that they shoved off on Boston ~ Allen Craig) Pedroia is shaping up to be a dead weight contract too, although that one is understandable as it’s similar to Molina’s legacy deal.
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