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January 31, 2019 at 1:43 pm #80987
Not sure if many on this site have seen this news but he was beaten up pretty badly by a bouncer (along with Kacy Clemens who is the son of Roger Clemens) and suffered a broken skull. I’m not sure if he’ll be ready for Spring Training or how this effects his career going forward.
https://www.tmz.com/2019/01/31/roger-clemens-son-kacy-clemens-lawsuit-bar-attack/
January 31, 2019 at 4:16 pm #80997This was brought up earlier on another thread and I shared that Capel was fully participating in instructional camp with no apparent issues or limitations, including taking live BP. That was less than two weeks after he suffered a skull fracture? Not sure how to interpret this.
January 31, 2019 at 5:00 pm #80999Sorry, Brian. I missed that posting when I guess it was brought up. I just saw the news today when one of my friends sent me the TMZ link.
January 31, 2019 at 5:55 pm #81000No worries. What is your take on him being able to do baseball activities so quickly?
January 31, 2019 at 6:42 pm #81002I don’t know. I was shocked when you said he was participating in drills already. Perhaps the injury isn’t as severe as originally thought?
January 31, 2019 at 7:19 pm #81005That seems the logical conclusion. When in camp, he was one of the guys I looked for specifically because I did not have a headshot photo of him as a Cardinal. So, while I never got closer than 15-20 feet, I had a very clear look with a good lens. I also watched him take BP in the cage and on the field. All seemed absolutely normal.
February 1, 2019 at 10:33 am #8102514NyquisT
ParticipantThat picture looks like he went a round with Ray Donovan.
February 1, 2019 at 10:59 am #81036Here is how he looked two weeks later. He must have a good corner man.
February 1, 2019 at 11:16 am #81045
stlcard25ParticipantNext witness, Brian Walton of The Cardinal Nation…
February 1, 2019 at 11:29 am #81052Nah, they don’t need me. There were 40 other players in camp plus every coach and scout in the system. The MLB coaching staff came through and even Bill DeWitt and Mo were there. A witness with a big name would be more impressive.
February 1, 2019 at 11:47 am #81059
stlcard25ParticipantYet did any of them take such a “smoking gun” photo to combine with your name?
Clout + evidence, Walton is your man. ?
February 1, 2019 at 3:06 pm #81075I was wondering how Capel and Clemens new each other so well given there was a 3 year age difference even though both are from the Houston area. It turns out Capel’s dad was a UT teamate of Roger. Capel’s dad also was a short time major leaguer, something I didnt know earlier.
February 1, 2019 at 3:31 pm #81077On the latter point, Mo, you need to read our top 50 countdown and our Prospect Guide! 😉
February 1, 2019 at 10:48 pm #81087I didn’t know about this either until the other day BHC, but looking at the picture, Capel took quite a beating. Surely, if he fractured his skull, he received a severe concussion. Is that not a concern with the Cards either and how come there wasn’t an official release by the team on the incident?
February 1, 2019 at 11:12 pm #81088I’ve never seen an official release by the Cardinals about any player injury related to an off-the-field matter in the off-season – especially for a Class-A player. If you are suggesting the organization made him participate in a relatively meaningless camp while knowing he had serious injuries, that would be a stupid move that would set them up to be the next recipient of a lawsuit. I highly, highly doubt that. I wonder how much the team knew, if anything, before the article was published the other day. A more relevant question for me is why would Capel participate with injuries said to be that severe? How could he stand in and take batting practice two weeks after suffering a fractured skull and concussion? The pieces to this story do not fit together particularly well.
February 1, 2019 at 11:35 pm #81089USA TODAY story with more details.
February 1, 2019 at 11:49 pm #81090Always 2 sides to a story and I’ll assume the club has tapes that will show what really happened if indeed they’ve got 4 locations unless someone knew them and erased them. Stay tuned!
February 2, 2019 at 4:38 pm #81137Another fast recovery as Kacy Clemens played baseball today.
As a reminder, this is the first sentence in the original TMZ story:
“Kacy Clemens — son of MLB legend Roger Clemens — says bouncers at a Houston bar beat him so badly during a New Year’s Eve event, they may have destroyed his pro baseball career.”
Roger Clemens wore a Red Sox jersey and played in the UT Alumni game with sons Kacy and Kody. @UniWatch pic.twitter.com/ZEN7cBnwIA
— Mike Barnes (@MikeBarnesMedia) February 2, 2019
February 2, 2019 at 11:09 pm #81139I’m not suggesting that at all Brian and I find it very hard to believe the organization has never given a release on one of their players injures during off-season (outside of deaths of course). Logically speaking, if one of my higher ranked prospects got injured in an off-field incident, I would 1. Assume the media would come calling for more details on this news item, therefore I’d release a statement saying the team is looking into it and will not have a comment until after an internal investigation. 2. Want to bring his ass in to have the team doctors take a look at him; you know with a fractured skull and all. That would be considered ‘due diligence’ since the Cardinals and Blue Jays would have to provide a confirmation of the injuries being career altering to the justice system. 3. Want to investigate the event myself to see if a suspension or voidance of his contract was necessary if his actions embarrassed the team.
That’s just me. But I do agree, this whole thing does not add up. If Connor Capel wasn’t upfront with the team then he should be suspended. His first call the next day should have been to John Mozeliak. The fact that USA Today reports that “Capel will require annual evaluations for the head injuries sustained for at least the next five years. “, that suggests to me that he’s not going to win his lawsuit participating in practises so soon after his concussion. However, if he blacks out from his injuries during practice, his next legal claim would be against the team for negligence. I’m thinking the Cardinals were not fully informed of the severity, otherwise why take the chance.
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