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    The deadline to come to an agreement with arbitration players was today at 11am CT. Has anyone heard if the Cardinals and John Gant have come to an agreement?

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    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    Either they agreed or the Cards will go to hearing with Gant. That is their policy.

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    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    No hearing. One of the national guys will probably report the money.

    #118989
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    Heyman is very good at reporting contract details. That is the main reason I follow him on twitter. He hasn’t mentioned Gant yet but I’m sure he will.

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    Goold finally getting a scoop in his backyard.

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    The scoop will be having the dollar amount. My bet is Heyman will have it before Goold.

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    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    National guy broke it, oddly one currently between jobs. Slightly under the MLBTR projection of $1.4 MM.

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    Glad to see Gant cash in. There was talk about releasing him at one point based on his second half of the season.

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    Gant looked very good and very bad at times last year. He’s worth holding onto as the swingman to see if he can settle into that solid middle zone. The stuff is there to do it, for sure.

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    Still haven’t heard what the Cardinals were offering him. With the uncertainty around Gant’s second half of the season and the questioning of his spot on the roster, I was surprised that he would even think about challenging the FO.

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    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    We may never hear the details of the contract negotiation, nor should we expect it.

    No one said Gant considered challenging the front office. After all, he settled before going to a hearing, didn’t he? And the amount was slightly lower than an independent estimate.

    I doubt there is any discord between team and player. This is business as usual activity. Nothing to see here, as far as I am concerned…

    P.S. I would add that Gant continues to have no minor league options, so the Cardinals do not have important roster flexibility with him if he goes into a long funk again in 2020.

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    Your points are well taken. But in order for this to go down to the wire, there must have been some contentiousness going on. Did the Cardinals projected monetary value for Gant seem like a low ball to him? Was Gant being unreasonable based on his production so far? Was Gant making sure he got that last dollar out of the Cardinals before agreeing? At any rate I’m glad it’s settled. He was very good for the first part of the season last year, and if he pitches like that again, we definitely want him around. (Now let’s see if he gets traded before the end of ST).

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    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    mud, take a look around baseball for a broader perspective. How many guys signed early (just a handful) vs. waiting until yesterday (at least for the announcement)?

    There were literally dozens and dozens of deals announced yesterday.

    A deadline – any time, anywhere – causes action. But it can also cause people to put off action until the last minute.

    It is a rare case indeed when a player and a team agree exactly on what his salary should be. So, they talk about it and probably meet somewhere in the middle. Again, this is human nature.

    The whole arbitration process is designed to get the two sides to agree before a hearing. In most cases, it worked. Gant is one of them. I really see no reason to try to read anything into this. It is business as usual.

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    Cot’s had projected Gant to get $1.9 so the Cards were able to beat that by $600k.

    I am glad to see Gant stick with the team. Let’s not forget that in many aspects he was our best reliever the first half of the season. It is very possible that he got worn down by the second half. We need to manage his innings better. I would hate to see him burned out like Matt Bowman and Kevin Siegrist. At least Bowman has bounced back with the Reds.

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    December 1 2016 Jamie Garcia was traded to the Braves for Gant-Chris Ellis and Luke Dykstra. Not a bad return.

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    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    Good point. Ellis is still around, too, though stuck between AA and AAA and starting vs. relieving. He left in last year’s Rule 5 but was returned. May never reach St. Louis, but the minors needs soldiers, too. And he did reach MLB for one inning, so no one can every take the title of “former MLB pitcher” away from him…

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    I could see where, as part of the process,
    the ball club submits an offer lower than what it knows it would settle for, and the player submits a offer for higher than he knows that he would settle for. But I would also say that, if it was mudville in his first year of eligibility coming off of a half season like Gant did, it would not take mudville long to reach an agreement.

    The Cardinals seem to have more relievers than they do bullpen spots. I could see where some other club might see Gant as being more valuable in a rotation than as a swing man.

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