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  • #241506
    Brian Walton
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    #241517
    gscottar
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    Good information. I enjoyed going through it.

    I think the book on Gorman is that he can’t handle the high fastball. If he can ever overcome that weakness his numbers will be huge.

    #241520
    blingboy
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    Noot looks like he’s trying to hide elf ears.

    #241555
    Brian Walton
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    Lotsa stocking caps being worn this year. We were inside, you know…

    #241556
    Brian Walton
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    #241578
    Brian Walton
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    #241583
    bccran
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    Brian – With the Cards depending more and more on internal options and taking a look at how effectively they’re developing players to perform at the major league level, I’m surprised they don’t have breakout sessions on those particular topics. And also on all things that go into the draft, like they used to with Kantrovitz and Flores. Are they underestimating the depth of fan knowledge?

    #241585
    14NyquisT
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    Inside The Cardinals on FanNation
    Cardinals’ John Mozeliak Expected To Leave Front Office In Near Future
    Story by Nate Hagerty •
    19h

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/cardinals-john-mozeliak-expected-to-leave-front-office-in-near-future/ar-AA1n19nU?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=140d084ea5974a6eb877b3b1fedaf7f5&ei=9&fbclid=IwAR03v7det9sHfqKQ5xsYF-FZhIFoyKaYZpvWBymnMC139GPESyhy_s9OMfU

    Has anyone else hear anything else on this?

    #241586
    gscottar
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    Near Future?? Mo’s contract expires after the 2025 season. If he leaves I assume it would be then.

    #241590
    Brian Walton
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    Ny said:

    Has anyone else hear anything else on this?

    Sigh… All that work and it is not read…

    You don’t have to listen to the full interview from Saturday, though his comments about his future are at the 9:30 mark. Or just scan through my written summary of Mo’s comments until you get to that part.

    As gscottar said, the time frame is two seasons away. Click bait title.

    Cardinals Winter Warm-Up – In Their Words: Saturday, 1/13/24

    #241591
    Brian Walton
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    bccran asked:

    Brian – With the Cards depending more and more on internal options and taking a look at how effectively they’re developing players to perform at the major league level, I’m surprised they don’t have breakout sessions on those particular topics. And also on all things that go into the draft, like they used to with Kantrovitz and Flores. Are they underestimating the depth of fan knowledge?

    I have no idea. I don’t know who sets the WWU agenda, but it isn’t Baseball Ops. Like you feel, it seems dumbed down to me. There was not a breakout I cared to see and the main tent is too hectic and noisy to be effective.

    So, I asked Gary LaRocque to sit down with me after the panel discussion posted above. He answered all my questions and more. The interview will be posted Wednesday morning for subscribers.

    #241592
    Euro Dandy
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    gscott, yep that’s what this is referring to. The headline says “near future,” which might not be “near” enough for some, but Jim Bowden said Mo said he believes end of contract will be it for him as POBO. Obviously, Bowden is a connected source.

    #241593
    Brian Walton
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    Bowden wasn’t at WWU this weekend. He is possibly regurgitating what we were told at WWU. If folks would just go to the interview, you can hear the words directly from Mo’s mouth!

    #241594
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    Haha Brian! I haven’t been reading a lot on a daily basis since the holidays. I read Nyquist’s post first so I responded to gscott about the “headline.” Then I read your stuff. I wondered if Bowden was there since he wrote Mo “told us” in the tweet, then I thought probably not. Or maybe he had dinner with Mo along the way, lol.

    #241596
    Brian Walton
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    No problem, Euro. Maybe Bowden had Mo on his show recently. I honestly don’t follow him closely. If he wasn’t a former GM, I would pay no attention at all. I put Steve Phillips in the same general category, FWIW.

    And getting Cardinals news from MSN is like playing telephone. If you don’t want to go to TCN, go to the P-D or The Athletic or one of the other local writers, even MLB.com. At least it is usually first-hand.

    #241597
    Euro Dandy
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    I don’t follow Bowden closely either, or anybody specifically. Just hunt for some scatter a few times a week go where that leads me. Then take what I find for what I think it’s worth. This is one site I do visit regularly and like to read even when I don’t post.

    But based on what you said, I did just look at Bowden’s X feed and he posted he was going to have Mo as a guest on the Jan 14 show. Maybe it was lunch instead of dinner, haha.

    #241599
    Brian Walton
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    Yes, you can bet that as soon as he heard about Mo’s WWU comments on Saturday, Bowden lined him to come on his show Sunday. Getting the guys in the news is standard practice. And this way, he can say, “he told me”, which he did…

    #241611
    Thegreyghost
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    They come in 5th place again this year I bet 2024 will be both Mo and Marmol’s last season with the Cardinals

    #241612
    GameCard
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    And what will happen if we finish 1st?

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    #241616
    jj-cf-stl
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    “The middle relief corps stands as perhaps the teams top remaining priority.”
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    Not from my chair, in fact, not at all.

    Needed: 8th or 9th inning reliever with an established history of holding leads and saving leads. We have dozens of low leverage “middle relief” choices capable of blah, or better.

    It amazes me that Goold and MLBTR consider middle relief a need.

    Needed: shortstop depth behind Winn, not named Tommy Edman, as bench U.I.
    Less than 100 GS at mlb, as SS, need not apply. We have many of those already.

    #241619
    GameCard
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    Eddie should be the starting SS.

    #241621
    bccran
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    If I had been there, I would have asked Gary what Libby, Thompson, McGreevy, Graceffo, and Roby are working on to hopefully become effective starters at the Major League level, since getting Lynn and Gibson have bought them some time.

    #241622
    jj-cf-stl
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    I agree GameCard. Was hoping Carlson could have blocked Edman from CF, but here we are.

    #241628
    Brian Walton
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    I wish Carlson was a better hitter, but he hasn’t been. Maybe he can be in the future.

    If there is one thing I picked up at WWU is that the Cardinals believe Edman is the best CF on the roster and is Gold Glove capable there. Edman himself agreed with that. So I don’t get the resistance to playing the best players they have. Only a minority would rather have Carlson playing instead of Winn, but they are persistent…

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