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July 28, 2025 at 12:41 pm #288635
You like Roby now he’s undergone Tommy John and pretty much is a no go for 26?
I think my assessment is the same. He needs to stay healthy. Who knows what he will look in 2027? Time will tell.
July 28, 2025 at 12:59 pm #288638PadsFS
ParticipantIt seems we should’ve gone for quality rather than quantity with our 2023 deadline deals.
I think you could say we did a soft sell in 2018 though too. We dealt Pham for Cabrera and Williams and Luke Voit for Gallegos.
October 13, 2025 at 10:54 am #294198Just wanted to revisit this one real quick. As of the end of the 2025 season, 6 of the 10 players acquired at the 2023 deadline have played major league innings.
Three of the six promoted to the Show thus far have been pretty irrelevant:
– Kloffenstein threw 1 perfect inning in St. Louis and was subsequently released the following offseason.
– Rom threw 33 2/3 innings at the back end of 2023 with an ERA over 8.00. He was injured in 2025 (and most of 2024).
– Prieto has taken 6 at bats and struck out in 5 of those, singling in the other.The other three that have been promoted have been ok to good:
– Svanson threw 60 1/3 innings out of the bullpen in 2025 with a 1.95 ERA and .88 WHIP. Really impressive.
– Saggese logged 49 at bats in 2024 with a .556 OPS and 257 at bats in 2025 with a .641 OPS.
– King gave the Cardinals 18 2/3 innings in 2023 at a 1.45 ERA, 60 innings in 2024 at a 2.85 ERA, and 48 1/3 innings in 2026 with a 4.66 ERA. Overall, he’s been pretty solid.The other four:
– Robberse is still in AAA and was injured almost the entire 2025 season.
– Roby moved up to AAA this season and was doing well prior to getting hurt and will be out a good portion of the 2026 season.
– Showalter is in High A, but has become a relief pitcher and had lots of struggles.
– Sammy Hernandez is in High A and put together a so-so season. He’s now been passed up as a primary catcher.How was this return? Well, it hasn’t really changed the future too much. Svanson was a real revelation this year and we have him for years to come. King has 2 1/2 solid to good seasons, although my guess is he will be non-tendered this offseason. Saggese looks to be at least a solid utility player. Showalter, Hernandez, and Rom are likely lost causes at this point. I don’t expect them to make anymore major league impacts. Kloffenstein is gone. I really don’t see Prieto making a positive major league impact either and was surprised to see him added to the 40-man at all. I’m completely unsure what will happen with Robberse. Roby is the one big hope left if he heals up and is effective again. It’s a big IF.
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