2023 StL Game #132: Monday, August 28 vs. Padres

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    Brian Walton
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    6:45 p.m.
    RHP Adam Wainwright (3-9, 8.61) vs. LHP Blake Snell
    BSM // KMOX // WIJR
    (and Bally Sports Southeast/Southwest Extra)

    #232649
    ZTR
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    Man I hope Wainwright can reach deep and get these 2 wins.

    Running out of chances.

    #232657
    Cardinal in France
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    I am so pulling for Waino to extract himself from this sad, career-end slide. Just a bit more oomph and a bit more luck to finish on a much deserved positive note…

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    Wainwright in his prime would have trouble getting two more wins pitching for this team.

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    Yesterday it was Nola and today it is Snell. Will one of them be a Cardinal next year?

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    Oliver
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    Hopefully Snell

    #232677
    14NyquisT
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    Wainwright in his prime would have trouble getting two more wins pitching for this team.

    Ain’t that the absolute but unfortunate truth?

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    Brian Walton
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    In his prime, Wainwright got to hit and he took great pride in it. Maybe Oli should DH him! 😉

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    In a situation where what we need is to advance a runner to 3rd, Wainwright might be a better bet than at least half of our lineup.

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    CF Tommy Edman S
    LF T. O’Neill R
    1B P. Goldschmidt R
    3B N. Arenado R
    DH W. Contreras R
    2B Nolan Gorman L
    C A. Knizner R
    RF J. Walker R
    SS Masyn Winn R

    #232695
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    Actually you may be right Bling. Probably could just bunt the guy over. Can he play 1b?? Not much been happening at the plate there. Personally don’t see Waino getting 2 more wins.Show me I’m wrong!

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    Also hope Gorman remembers how to hit today. Starting to remind me of DeOut!

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    Seriously Wooster, I was thinking the same. Waino can bunt. I was thinking they need to teach Gorman how to bunt reliably. He steps in and what we desperatly need is for him to take an AB that has a high probability of advancing a runner to third and what he does is the lower probability of barreling the ball with optimum launch angle and driving it deep. Gorman does not have the bat on ball skill to adjust and give himself a higher probability of pulling a grounder to the right side, so he needs to be able to bunt. Same with some other guys. A functional offense is more than hoping we hit enough homers to win.

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    I hate seeing the two touts at the bottom of the order, but that’s where they need to be right now. Winn is off to a slow start, and Walker is hitting barely .200 since the AS break, which is a while ago now. Considering we were talking about RoY, his debut has been a huge fizzle.

    The thing about Walker I am most concerned about, though, is evidenced by his 75 point reverse platoon split and generaly appallingly bad season batting line vs lefties, .197/.265/.368/.634. It suggests an absense of anything like well rounded batting skills. Along the same lines as Gorman, his occasional power is intoxicating, but so far, I have seen no evidence of anything in the way of skills as a batsman. Certanly nothing like the level of advance and refinement a guy should have by the time he gets here. He connected pretty regularly for a while, but not since they caught on to him. He can sometimes connect with mistakes thrown by righties, but that seems to be the extent of his ability. We can hope for something better next year.

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    The mention of Adam being no slouch in the batter’s box reminds me of another reason I detest the DH in the NL. I miss seeing pitchers who could hit take their rips or lay down a nice sac bunt. There’s too many pitchers that I can recall who could really swing the bat to mention in this comment, but one that will always stand out to me is Don Robinson. He actually used to scare me whenever he stood in the box against the Cardinals. At any rate, for some reason it was always special when a pitcher would either lace an RBI base hit, or Jack Buck would say, “He wouldn’t walk the pitcher would he?”…Haha!

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    I just have a bad feeling about Wainwright taking on the Phillies.

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    Even with Snell dealing, this game sets up perfectly for Waino. This is not a game that you bet the ranch and all of it’s animal inhabitants on, but it would be wise to dig deep into your lifelong savings and extract a sizeable sum. I love this game and I’m totally bullish on Waino coming away with the “W”. Let’s call it 6-4 Birds shall we?

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    He’s only at 20 pitches after 2, so far, so good.

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    PadsFS
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    Gray haired Matt Carpenter with the ovation and the flare into right.

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    Holliday in the booth looks like he could play right now.

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    Runners on 2nd and 3rd in 4th with 1 out. Can’t get one in. 2 strike outs in a row. Not a good look for the home team fans.

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    Leaving Wainwright in there to try to get the win is going to cost them the game

    #232723
    PadsFS
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    Great game by Wainwright. 6 innings and a single run. Pallante would’ve opened it up.

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    Cool to see Holiday, Waino, and Carpenter tonight.

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    Can’t fault Wainwright tonight…. Offense is just in one of it’s non-existant phases….

    it’s too bad because he might not hurl 5 shutout innings again and only 1 run through 6.

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