2023 Minors Pitchers and Players of the Month

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    Brian Walton
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    Brian Walton
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    The Cardinals have made Baker and Matthew Liberatore their April selections.

    I have a question for readers. Please take a look at my Pitcher of the Month article. I look at straight stats, giving everyone an equal chance. Does that discriminate against guys at the highest levels? What do you think?

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    Brian Walton
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    blingboy
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    I would have a hard time picking anyone but Gomez. The ISO more than 100 points higher than anyone else, except Redmond (50 points higher), is astonishing. Its an all or nothing game these days, so we have to look at it from the perspective of value in that environment.

    Obviously, if prospect value were a factor, the answer would likely be different.

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    jj-cf-stl
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    Discriminate? No. After reading the article, and considering the factors you outlined, the award is well deserved.

    His BB/K and WHIP fit the goal of every pitcher, keep the bases empty (as possible).

    The batters in AAA are better, sure, but so are the pitchers. Across all levels, level appropriate is a fair comparison, for me.

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    I agree. Straight stats is best with relative ties going to higher levels or guys who are extra young for their level.

    And I agree with you your choice of Herrera. Although I’d love to have given it to Mendlinger just because he’s likely to never get another chance.

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    Thanks jj for reminding me about Brian’s question from last month.

    Does that discriminate against guys at the highest levels?

    My thought was, if the results over time are skewed in favor of the lower levels, then yes, the method employed probably discriminates in favor of lower level pitchers. If results over time are balanced across levels, then no, the method does not discriminate. I had intended to see if I could look into it, but haven’t had the chance.

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    Brian Walton
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    Rincon vs. Hjerpe – who do you like?

    Cardinals Name Herrera and Rincon Top Minor Leaguers in May

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    LACardFan
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    Free

    Rajcic deserved the honor alone

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    Brian Walton
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    Rajcic was good, but Roy Garcia was even better.

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    The Cardinals organization chose Winn and Mautz, as I predicted.

    Cardinals Select Masyn Winn and Brycen Mautz July’s Top Minors Player and Pitcher

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    14NyquisT
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    This is why I wait for the Cardinal’s selections. Totally more accurate than previous selections here. Its fairly obvious why.

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    Brian Walton
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    14NyquisT, please explain how you define “more accurate” in the context of award recognition, which by definition is inexact and somewhat subjective. Perhaps I can learn something in how I present and analyze the data. It is only fair that since you have read my logic and you apparently do not agree, that you share your thought process.

    As an aside, I am not trying to mimic or predict what the Cardinals will do. I take my own look with the goal of posting ours before theirs so they do not influence the choice. And they do not share what went into their decision as we do.

    This month, it is not obvious to me why Mautz should win when several others had better results. Though Mautz is clearly the best prospect from among the six qualifiers with the lowest ERAs, that ranking is not a factor in our monthly selections.

    I am open to other points of view that can be supported. Thanks.

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    Brian Walton
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    Ny, I’d appreciate your response, please…

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    blingboy
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    The organization likes to hype their high draft picks, especially once they get close to the top of the system. They have no reason to recognize a DSL kid.

    Its informative to read up on the standouts whatever their pedigree and wherever they fall in the system. I really don’t know how accuracy could even be contemplated as a concept when comparing players from the top and bottom of the system. Having a logical and substantially objective method makes for a fun and interesting excersize.

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    Brian Walton
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    Agreed, and thanks. But when posters disagree, they must have other ideas on how to better evaluate players. I am genuinely interested. I am fine with disagreement. I expect it at times, but one should not shy away from explaining themselves. Otherwise, it just feels like an arbitrary shot taken and we are better than that.

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    Saggese has been a surprise to me, and as to Crooks I am still rubbing my chin and scrunching my brow, trying to decide what he may do for us. Its good to have some new interesting prospects. Among the let downs this year has been McGreevy and Graceffo fading from exciting top prospects to guys who might be back of rotation and depth types. I religeously shun the kool aide when it comes to guys in A ball and the Texas League, but I think I absorb some by proximity.

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