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January 30, 2023 at 8:11 pm #211879
My grandpa used to talk about Kurowski hitting a homer that won the 1942 WS, defeating the Yankees, who were considered practically immortal in those days. He was sort of revered in ST. Louis after that.
February 7, 2023 at 10:39 am #212257So, over 20% of the voters still decline to share their ballots. Why are they afraid of the sunshine?
The BBWAA has published 307 Hall of Fame ballots. That is 78.9 percent of the total ballots cast.https://t.co/TEt4Fjty4e
— BBWAA (@officialBBWAA) February 7, 2023
February 7, 2023 at 3:48 pm #212268“So, over 20% of the voters still decline to share their ballots. Why are they afraid of the sunshine?”
I can’t speak for any of the writers, but unlike, say, United States congressmen and women, the baseball writers aren’t representing the general public when they cast their Hall Of Fame votes, so I don’t see the imperative for transparency as many others do. There’s a thin line between criticism and coercion — particularly in the age of relentless so-called social media — so I’m fine with any writer who prefers the privacy of a secret ballot. Just my two centavos, good host.
February 17, 2023 at 1:12 pm #212732The cap logo on Rolen’s Hall plaque will be StL.
Capping it off: Fred McGriff and Scott Rolen’s Hall of Fame caps will feature…https://t.co/S9dj5tS9RX pic.twitter.com/T3tkxM5Siq
— National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum ⚾ (@baseballhall) February 17, 2023
February 17, 2023 at 1:54 pm #212733I’ll always remember McGriff as a Brave simply because he murdered Cardinal pitching while he was there and there wasn’t any inter-league play during the time he played in Canada, but he hung up some nice numbers on the board just about everywhere he manned up at 1B, so I can understand why he’d opt for a blank. In my view, Rolen was an easy lay-up to opt for a Redbirds cap, but you never really know what a guy’s going to do. At any rate, I’m happy he’ll have a cap that features the StL logo.
February 17, 2023 at 2:24 pm #2127341982 willie
ParticipantTo me the cap thing doesn’t really matter with players that played for different teams especially multiple different teams, not the end of the career extend their time in the big leagues type thing. I’m glad that rolen decided to go with st Louis though.
February 17, 2023 at 2:43 pm #212737Yeah, I don’t get too spun up over it either, Willie, but I always think it looks odd when I see an old photo of Brock wearing a Cubs cap…Haha!
February 17, 2023 at 3:23 pm #2127481982 willie
ParticipantWell 1tough that cause brock was always meant to be a cardinal, those cub years didn’t really happen.
February 17, 2023 at 6:06 pm #212764I imagine with few players anymore staying with one club most of their career, we will see more non-logo caps in the coming years.
On another note, I hope the Cardinals do not retire #27. I can see retiring a few numbers for iconic players that were overwhelmingly Cardinals during their career. But Rolen spent less than half of his career with our club.
I would not have retired Whitey’s number either, and probably not LaRussa’s 10. But hey, different folks have different takes.
February 17, 2023 at 6:31 pm #212769Yeah, the retired number thing can be a touchy one, BikeMike. Sutter kind of fell in there with #42 by default and LaRussa sort of snubbed the Cardinals after he entered the HOF with a blank after they retired his #10, but I don’t begrudge him at all simply because that’s how TLR is. He does what he thinks is best no matter what anyone thinks. I have no problem with Whitey’s number being retired, but I kind of wish he would have worn a different number than #24 because we all know who that one belongs to and I feel it should be reserved strictly for CF’ers…Haha! At any rate, what are your thoughts on 4 and 5?
February 17, 2023 at 6:51 pm #212771Just a little addendum on jersey numbers…I vividly recall the first time I ever attended a Cardinal game in which the Redbirds faced the SF Giants. The very instant that I saw a jersey with the #24 emblazoned on the back of that jersey take to CF, I immediately thought, “Wow! I just saw Willie Mays…In person!” As a 9 year old boy I genuinely thought that I had then and there experienced everything in the world that was worthwhile. I mean, it was Willie Mays for goodness sake…Haha!
February 17, 2023 at 8:55 pm #212777As a Cardinals fan, I feel honored that Rolen has chosen to show the Cardinals logo on his HOF cap. I can’t help but wonder if he would have done that had LaRussa shown the Cardinals logo on his cap. Personally, I care more about Rolen than I do about LaRussa. The fact that the Cardinals have had so many winning seasons since LaRussa left says a lot about the organization and its fan base, and something else about how great LaRussa really was.
February 17, 2023 at 9:00 pm #212778I always remember McGriff as a Padre with a middle of the lineup that had Gwynn, Sheffield and McGriff. I attended a game they beat us 10 or 12-0. Those three guys were all over the bases. Rheal Cormier didn’t get out of the 1st as I remember it. Maybe the worst defeat I ever saw in person.
February 17, 2023 at 10:46 pm #212783Although he hung around the Big Leagues for quite a while, I remember wishing Cormier would have taken up curling as a sport when he was a Cardinal…
July 24, 2023 at 8:47 am #228975Interesting coincidence that the day after Rolen entered the Hall of Fame, Jim Bowden tells a story about how he had a deal to get Rolen from the Phillies in 2002 (assumedly before the Cardinals).
Interesting tidbit at the end of this article about how Cincinnati had a deal to acquire new Hall of Famer Scott Rolen from the Phillies in 2002, but the trade was vetoed by the Reds' owner over money. How would #STLCards history have changed had that happened? https://t.co/atmTOnUMBW
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) July 24, 2023
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