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August 18, 2017 at 11:25 pm #31018
Mayers geys replaced by who tomorrow?
August 19, 2017 at 8:34 am #31035As crazy as it sounds, I hope they bring up Wick. Let him earn or lose is 40 man roster spot.
August 19, 2017 at 8:53 am #31043Wonder why no one but me talks about Josh Lucas…
August 19, 2017 at 8:53 am #31044If they make a traditional move I would expect Gant called up. Already on the 40 man scheduled to start tonight at AAA so well rested.
But if they are considering a more out of the box move to make statement and hopefully fix the problem I wonder if an off the 40 man move of a guy like Hudson, Flaherty, or Alcantara might be in play.
All three are at innings point in the year that being asked to pitch a high stress inning over every 2 or 3 days might be safer on their arms then piling up more innings as a starter in the minors. Since all three will likely be on the 40 man roster next year as long as they stay in the majors the rest of the year it does not really burn options, however would in Hudson and Flaherty cases tie up A 40 man spot sooner than needed.
August 19, 2017 at 9:09 am #31048Two good things from last night, okay 3
1 We scored 11 runs – that number of runs should (we do have a couple factors that make it should not will) win every game.
2. We won
3. I know the kid that catch Dejong’s home run.
August 19, 2017 at 9:35 am #31051Maybe because Josh Lucas isnt on the 40 man roster?
August 19, 2017 at 9:37 am #31052Good to see the offense stay on this post-all-star-break roll. We needed every one of those 11 runs last night. But that was a brutal game.
First, Jose Martinez might be the worst outfielder I have ever seen. He can hit, but is a proto-type DH. Why in the world doesn’t anyone use two hands to catch the ball anymore, like us kids of the ’60s and ’70s were taught. I guess because it doesn’t look cool. It’s okay for guys who can actually catch the ball do that, but Martinez needs to be told he absolutely must use two hands every time on routine fly balls, or he is fined.
Man, our bullpen. As Al said last night, when you’ve got eight guys out there and feel like you’re not covered, something is wrong. Mayers cannot even protect an 8 run lead, Cecil is a roll of the dice, as is Oh. Bowman might be slightly better, but is nowhere near a lock down guy. There is no one in that group of 8 at this point that you can say will almost assuredly keep a game in check. Lyons might be the one guy who we can turn to as a reasonably consistent bullpen arm.
From here on, or until someone steps up as a shutdown guy, Matheny needs to get at least 8 innings out of the starter if they have pitched mostly low stress innings, like Martinez did last night.
August 19, 2017 at 9:58 am #3105514NyquisTParticipantbikemike, what player uses two hands to catch today? Back in the 50s and 60s we had those little gloves with the short fingers… some were four fingered and we had to use two hands. Young players of today would laugh ’til they peed if they ever actually saw one. (where are the young players of today? All I see is empty baseball fields). And the 1st baseman’s and catchers mitts weren’t too much bigger. Them days is finished… along with corner cigar stores.
ps… how can a ball pop out of one of the mammoth-sized gloves of today?August 19, 2017 at 10:07 am #31058bccranParticipantTuivailala and Brebbia are reasonably effective. They might have to take on more higher leverage situations.
August 19, 2017 at 10:10 am #31059CC, neither is Mark Montgomery on the 40-man and I see fans talking about him all the time. The organization really likes Lucas, but despite good results, he seems almost unknown to most fans.
August 19, 2017 at 10:22 am #31060How about that! Cards add Lucas to 40-man, promote him to St. Louis and option out Mayers…
August 19, 2017 at 10:23 am #31061bikemike, what player uses two hands to catch today? Back in the 50s and 60s we had those little gloves with the short fingers… some were four fingered and we had to use two hands. Young players of today would laugh ’til they peed if they ever actually saw one.
True to a point. In the mid-’60s I needed a new little league glove, and my dad got me a Ted Williams mitt from Sears that was pretty big. I had to get used to using it in fact, as it had that deep pocket. Definitely by then the gloves were plenty big enough to catch the ball with one hand.
But if you still cannot even catch it with these big gloves in today’s game, you gotta use two hands. Doesn’t matter what everyone else does, you need to do what works for you. Most guys are fine with the one handed catch. Grichuk, Pham, Fowler – they never miss a ball. Martinez though, is not coordinated enough in the field to play that way.
August 19, 2017 at 10:38 am #31063bccranParticipantGood call, Brian. He must be super excited – this is his 7th season in the minors and finally he’s going to wear a major league uniform. Hittable, but good Ks and most importantly, low walks. The recent walks by our relievers have been really frustrating. As one of the announcers said, “it’s tough to defense walks”.
August 19, 2017 at 10:45 am #31066August 19, 2017 at 11:40 am #31074I don’t think he dropped the ball because of one hand. He clearly lost it in the lights or didn’t keep his eye on the ball. No way the ball hits the heel of the glove that way if he is seeing it. Particularly since he was not running for the ball.
I’m not usually as critical of Matheny’s bullpen moves as others but last night was an exception. With Mayers history he sould have had no more than 4 hitters faced if not only 3. Then in the 9th when he sent Bowman out there I suspected Oh wasn’t available. But he had to use Oh anyway. In my opinion he is too reliant on Bowman.
August 19, 2017 at 1:00 pm #31087PadsFSParticipantAlex Reyes would be really helpful right about now.
August 19, 2017 at 1:16 pm #31089bccranParticipantI’d pass along condolences to Matheny because of the choices he’s faced with.
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