Well actually 1toughdominican, I consider Tudor one of the best cardinal pitchers ever so I give him lots of praise. He pitched well in the playoffs other than that one game that never should have been played. Coleman is well liked though there was some of shenanigans there that cost him some support. Tudor and Coleman are cardinal hall of famers so they aren’t forgotten. Clark was a good player but wasn’t a cardinal long. He was just paid power. Cardinal fans are knowledgeable so they don’t just look at championships. Since winning a championship is hard and sometimes comes down to luck, I just don’t look at that and I don’t think most cardinal fans do. But if you have two players who normally put up great numbers go out there in the playoffs and disappear continually, the fans will remember. Not to that point yet but we will see.