2024 Minor League game thread Week 11 – 6/17-23

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    Brian Walton
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    Brian Walton
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    PugsleyAddams
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    Edward Manuel Guribe. I can’t wait for Palm Beach to come a calling for the services of this 17 year old phenom.

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    AAA has previously employed full ABS for every pitch 3 games a week with the other 3 being a challenge system. However, MLB has sent a notice to teams that all AAA games will now be a challenge system only.

    I’m curious if there are certain pitchers and hitters who you could see doing better with one versus the other and what type of impact it will have on our AAA players. I like the move as the players and coaches in AAA loathed the fully automated system.

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    Chase Davis’s game logs the last few days are interesting. He has had 15 PA with 8! walks and then a sac fly. He has 3 hits in a total of 6 ABs.

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    Brian Walton
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    That is similar to Davis’ game in college. Last season, the Cards asked him to take fewer pitches and become more of a run producer. Maybe he has gone back to what got him drafted in the first round.

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    That is interesting info Brian. I didn’t know they asked him to take less pitches. That may explain him struggling so much if he was forcing swings at pitches and taking uncomfortable ABs.

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    Brian Walton
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    Interview from last August right here at TCN.

    Manager Gary Kendall on his 2023 Palm Beach Cardinals

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    FWIW – Graceffo has now thrown 13 scoreless innings in a row. He’s not getting deep into games and his strikeout numbers aren’t back yet, but he’s doing a good job of limiting both hits and walks. He’s tied for 6th in the international league for ERA amongst qualified starters.

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    Springfield had a 7 inning no hitter with Hjerpe throwing 5 really good innings. 6 Ks and 1 BB

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    The most consistent affiliates starters since the beginning of May are Kloffenstein-Rajcic-Saladin based on GSs which I feel is the best indicator.

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    What a difference a month makes. Everybody was talking up Robberse and now its Kloffenstein. What is Robberse’s status, anyone know?

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    Bedell got through 5 innings in his debut start with Memphis. It took him close to 100 pitches, but he only allowed 1 run on 4 hits. He started the year off rough but has been good for over a month now. I would expect him to be protected this year from the rule 5 draft if he doesn’t get on the roster before then.

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    Fangraphs ranks every player who plays any time in the minor leagues during the season based on age and performance. When you include all the major league rehabbers in there and DSL guys, the list has just over 7000 players. Therefore, getting to top 200 is quite an accomplishment. Here are those from the Cards:

    4. Quinn Mathews
    60. Nathan Church
    101. Tink Hence
    142. Cesar Prieto
    144. Darlin Saladin
    151. Juan Salas
    160. Luken Baker

    And at the bottom?

    6800. William Sullivan (MLB.com’s Cardinals #29 prospect)
    6832. Giovanny Gallegos

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    I think we had Mathews mid twenties in our pre-season top 50 prospects list. I imagine national ratings would have had him placed comparably. Amazing what can be learned of a prospects prospects in a dozen or so class A starts.

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    Baker with 2 homers thus far today. 19 on the year.

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    Mathews with another great start today. Yeah Mathews was mid 20s most places in the org, but this year his velo is up and his stuff is looking better overall. He isn’t the same prospect he was last year and I am getting more confident it isn’t just facing A ball hitters.

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    It was his first appearance in 18 days since he left his last start early, too.

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    All we can do is cross our fingers and hope for good luck with Hence.

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    I have not seen Matherws pitch in person or on TV, but I feel like I have seen this guy before. Or others like him, and I can tell you a very common scenario, because I have seen it countless times. So have most others here, but we like to forget.

    He has a very high K rate, which tends to drive up the pitch count. He is at 90+ to do 6 IP. They don’t hit him much, which is understandable since they are too busy striking out. But these are A level hitters with little experience and who are mostly going nowhere. He is striking out a lot of future insurance salesmen. He will progress to the upper levels and the hitters up there will adopt the strategy of waiting him out. They will not swing at out of zone or unhittable pitches. His walk rate will go up. His pitch count will go up and he will go less deep into games. He will have to come over the plate more, and if he can he will get hit more, if he can’t he will walk more. Between walks and hits his WHIP will go up and so will his ERA.

    Does this mean he will fail? No. But this is what is almost certain to happen, and I know that because it usually does happen with this type of pitcher. Over the years we have seen a hoard of pitchers who can throw it past A level hitters come through the Cardinals system. A freaking hoard. Where are they? Not here and mostly not anywhere. So lets all keep our shirts on. The first thing he has to do is not blow out his arm just trying to get there, and he has only been pitching in pro games for three months, so we have no clue how that will go. Lets see if he can get through a season, then we can see what else he can do.

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