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    Brian Walton
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    As far as I know, this was not reported until now. From John Denton of MLB.com:

    “(Edman) is still recovering from an arthroscopic surgery on his right wrist in October, Cardinals president of baseball operations John Mozeliak told MLB.com. Edman missed three weeks last July with right wrist inflammation, and the injury continued to bother him at the plate through the end of the season. The Cards are hopeful that Edman will be fully recovered by the start of Spring Training.”

    https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/news/tommy-edman-recovering-from-right-wrist-surgery

    #240744
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    Note that Mo made his public statement about the members of the 2024 lineup and specifically Edman being the starter in CF AFTER this surgery.

    If this fixed what ailed Edman, perhaps an upturn in his offense will occur in 2024.

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    Edman had a good April, but was not impressive at the plate after that. I wonder if he first hurt is wrist around early May. If he holds down CF all season, it would put him in a good spot heading into his 3rd arb year in 2025. But who will do what depends upon what the opening day roster looks like, and we won’t know that until opening day. Then there are 162 games to play.There is plenty of opportunity for worm turning to happen.

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    So yeah, maybe that was a big reason for his drop in production last year. Don’t recall seeing anything about it this until now.

    Not real big on Tommy as an outfielder, but if he is going to be that, at least to start, centerfield is acceptable for a good defense, lesser offense type. And again, maybe the offense will be better with the wrist back to 100%.

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    Me either. He’s by no means a liability in the OF, but placing him out there diminishes his value. He’s a top shelf MI’er. I say place him on the top shelf. In any event, it’ll be nice if he can once again get enough PA’s at the top of the order to once again have the teeth of the order push him across HP at or near 100 times.

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    If Edman returns to form, I think he will lead off. Donovan used to be a better leadoff because of the superior OBP, but I don’t know since they sent him to the guru to focus more on power. Plus, he doesn’t have a position as lineup regular. Lets also hope we have a #2 hitter other than Goldschmidt, that doesn’t seem too much to ask, but it apparently was last year.

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    This isn’t going to make him some .775-800 ops guy. He is what he is at the plate.

    And hopefully they have some platoon options for him if indeed he lands in CF.

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    With the current selection of whiz-kids who form the leadersip of this team, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if little Eddie got some PA’s at clean-up before next season comes to an end…

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    Vs rhp:

    R Walker
    L Noot
    R Arenado
    R Goldy
    L Gorman
    R Contreras
    L Donovan
    R Winn
    S Edman

    Edman could lead off vs a lefty SP’r.

    Noot gets the nod batting 2nd, but when Donovan re-establishes health and effectiveness, they could flip. “Who’s hot” could drive that daily decision.

    Goldschmidt’s obp is typically .045 to .050 points higher than Arenados’, so due to the frequency of 3up and 3down in the first inning, I would like Goldy leading off the 2nd inning from cleanup.

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    Wynn needs to open the year in AAA. That probably means Edmond at short

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    I wasn’t aware that there was a proponderance of 3 up and 3 down in the first 1st inning of a baseball game. In fact, I’ve been led to believe that the 1st inning of a game tended to be an inning in which there was a preponderance of scoring.

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    Not so much difference than any other inning 1TD. Cleanup usually finishes second most lead leading off an inning over a season, from there it’s pretty random.

    Mo set his lineup CC. I’m just going with what is.

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    Just seemed to me like it’s many times difficult for a SP’er to get past the 1st inning without a run or two crossing HP. Then, you look for the ol’, “Let’s see if he can settle in” trick…Haha!

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    I get ya. A little re-occurring scenario that over time adds up. Something to watch for next season 🙂

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    IMO, the line-up should be:
    Donavan 2B
    Nootbaar CF
    Goldschmidt 1B
    Arenado 3B
    Gorman DH
    Walker RF
    Carlson CF
    Contreras C
    Edman SS

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    Need a LF’er, GameCard, but I agree on Carlson in CF. In my view, he’s our best defensive OF’er.

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    I still don’t understand why an attempt isn’t made to hide Walker in LF. In my view, RF may be near as difficult an OF position as CF. Some of the best OF’ers that I can remember were routinely manned up in RF. Gwynn, Aaron, Parker, D. Evans, L. Walker, Kaline, Clemente, Suzuki, Winfield…RF isn’t an area of the field that will withstand the presense of any oven mitts and the Redbird whiz-kids seem bound and determined to keep trotting Walker out there. Why is that?

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    I agree. I would put Walker in lF, Carlson in CF and Noot in RF.

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    Gamecard, you do know that Carlson hits .200 vs righties, which would be most of the time?

    #240840
    Brian Walton
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    The overriding wish is to have Edman at short. The collateral damage doesn’t seem to matter. That the Cardinals have already said they aren’t going to do that also doesn’t seem to matter. So we go round and round.

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    I’m absolutely shocked that GameCard has Edman batting dead last. Gotta say….didn’t see that one coming.

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    I like GameCard’s lineup. Edman can be 1 or 2 but Noot and Donovan are better offensive players. Still don’t see the point in announcing a starting lineup befor spring training even starts. Mo should leave preseason lineups to Pugsley and gang.

    I would alsp rotate Donovan, Gorman and Walker at DH, 2B, LF

    Noot in RF

    #240852
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    Noot and Walker would make for a nice pair of corner OF arms.

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    I don’t care what Carlson did last year. He is a good player and needs to be given another chance.

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    Mo should leave preseason lineups to Pugsley and gang.

    I certainly think Sooner meant that to be postseason and not preseason. As far as Winn goes, I believe that there is little, if no chance, that we’ll be seeing anyone other than Winn playing SS this coming season. He’s going to have to consistently hit below The Mrs. Mendoza Line if a change is considered. And I think it’s great that we won’t be in search of a new starting SS for oh….about the next 15 years or so. The kid is the real deal and the Cardinals know it.

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