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The first order of business is by this committee.
Bill White was named to the #stlcards Hall of Fame in 2020 by the Red Ribbon Committee as a Veteran Era selection (retired 40 years or more). https://t.co/84tKHTafHq
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) October 19, 2023
Here is the Contemporary Baseball Era Committee ballot for the @BaseballHall Class of 2024.
Former managers, executives, and umpires whose primary contributions to the game came since 1980 were eligible for consideration.
Voting results will be announced December 3rd. pic.twitter.com/j8wITHA8xh
— MLB (@MLB) October 19, 2023
I’ve no issue with any of those guys with the exception of Joe West. Puy him on the ballot of the country music HOF and see if he gets in over there.
Bill White is still alive. He turns 90 in January. I’d love to see him get in. His stats look great. There must have been heavy competition from big market nominees during White’s years of eligibility for the HOF, or he’d be in the HOF already.
Here’s the Wikipedia link for William DeKova White…..
“collecting 14 hits in consecutive doubleheaders, both against the Chicago Cubs at Sportsman’s Park, going 4-for-5 in both games on July 17 and 3-for-4 in both games the very next day.”
Men were men back then.
White is up for consideration based on his role as league president, not as a player, though the latter can’t hurt his case.
Bill White features in my earliest baseball memories as a Cardinal in the prime of his career. Many years back I became familiar with Mr. White’s post playing career as a matter peripheral to my interest in Negro Leagues baseball and directly related to my interest in integration of the game in general. His term as NL President was not remarkable in terms of substantive matters, but as was the case with his activities in broadcasting, he was the cutting edge pushing integration of the game, and sports generally, beyond the playing field.
White is almost 90 years old. I hope they think about that, as it would be great to recognize him while he is still with us. Though I know he is not interested in public accolades, this would be the ultimate honor, and very deserving due to the breadth of his contributions, as noted.
Being Cardinal fans we are biased towards Bill White, but there are some real deserving people on that list.
Like Bling, White was in his prime in my early years of learning about baseball and collecting cards. I always loved getting a Bill White card.
That was an era of real good National League first-baseman. The Giants really had a great scouting department as they got White, Willie McCovey and Orlando Cepeda to the big leagues. Then you had Ernie Banks as well, and now and then Joe Torre played first base both in Milwaukee/Atlanta and with us.
But White’s continual employment in the game as a broadcaster and executive really cements his influence. Plus as a Cardinal player he was instrumental in getting the club’s Spring facilities integrated.
A good read if anyone is interested is White’s autobiography, “Uppity”.
Matt Holliday is among the first-time players on the ballot.
The 2024 BBWAA Hall of Fame ballot is here, featuring 12 new and 14 returning candidates.
Rersults will be announced at 6 p.m. ET Jan. 23 live on @MLBNetwork. https://t.co/6YgvulJogc pic.twitter.com/7xv2L6HFQo
— National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum ⚾ (@baseballhall) November 20, 2023
Wright, Beltre, Helton.
Pinella, Leyland, White, Montague.
I’m not seeing any of the others right now.
Good choice.
Welcome to Cooperstown, Jim Leyland!https://t.co/s7bUfVpY2B pic.twitter.com/BzosqPdo7x
— National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum ⚾ (@baseballhall) December 4, 2023
Well Leyland probably deserved it though failing to guide the pirates past those braves is a downer on his record. But he was above five hundred and all the teams he coach were below 500 teams before he got there
Leland is a solid choice. That ‘97 Marlins team was one of those “miracle” championships.
But everyone was saying his 2006 Tigers would steamroll the Cardinal in the Series – remember the “Tigers in 3” talk heading into that one?
Still a long time, well respected skipper. Managed one year out here and did not fare so well, but this place can drive managers (and pitchers) crazy!
Leyland gets in on my card simply on the merit of entirely obliterating Bonds during ST’ing of ’91…He also gets a vote for how he sometimes refused to even duck into the tunnel to burn a Marlboro or two ala Earl Weaver…Haha!
Yeah, Bikemike, the baseball gypsies don’t like that sort of “Tigers in 3” talk…They also didn’t like it when Nolan Ryan said, “We’ll get it done in 6″…I would have thought he’d have known better.
The announcement is tonight at 5 p.m. Who ya’ got?
I read an interesting Gammons/Rosenthal/Stark article at The Athletic about the direction of voting. This caught my eye.
“Stark and Gammons are both recipients of the BBWAA Career Excellence Award, the highest honor for baseball writers, and are recognized in a permanent exhibit at the Hall of Fame itself.”
This is the proper way to represent their important recognition. Others are loose with the facts, calling them Hall of Famers. They are not.
https://theathletic.com/5208807/2024/01/22/stark-gammons-rosenthal-hall-of-fame-roundtable/
I forgot to include the link to the Hall of Fame tracker. A guy who is not even a voter started keeping track of the writers ballots who make them public. It has turned into a big deal.
I find it amusing that the BBWAA is too scared to share their own voters votes so a third party built a business doing their job for them… They let the voters who submit garbage ballots continue to hide in the darkness instead of policing their members. Once you get a vote, you keep it forever. Bad policy.
Ballots were due 12/31, but Derrick Goold waited until today to share his. He voted for nine.
My utterly imperfect, completely debatable, properly defendable Class of 2024 Hall of Fame ballot.
Belatedly, I know, I know. Now available (unabridged!) for your comments, complaints, and criticism, here @stltoday:https://t.co/o4mZOuNiD8 #HOF #stlcards #Cardinals pic.twitter.com/no6ahifffF
— Derrick Goold (@dgoold) January 23, 2024
I continue to afford plenty of interest to the HOF. The StL. HOF was a farce from it’s inception. In my view, it carries with it no significance.
Just a quick glance at Goold’s HOF ballot reminds me of why I can’t even read the first paragraph or two of his game recaps without feeling a rapid onset of dizziness…
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