2023 StL Game #145: Tuesday, September 12 at Orioles

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    Brian Walton
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    5:35 p.m.
    RHP Adam Wainwright (3-11, 8.19) vs. LHP John Means (2023 Debut)
    BSM // KMOX
    (and Bally Sports Southeast/Southwest Extra)

    #233725
    ZTR
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    Wonder if Flaherty will get a start against his old mates?

    #233726
    ZTR
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    At this point, pitching Wainwright qualifies as making a mockery of the game.

    #233730
    Brian Walton
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    Flaherty is not scheduled to start this series.

    #233733
    Cardinal in France
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    Apparently the decision has been made to let Waino ride that bronc until either him or that hoss drops.

    #233734
    ZTR
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    Just looked up Flaherty for the Orioles. 6 starts and an ERA over 7.

    His career may be pretty much done. He’d better have a backup plan unless he’s saved every penny…

    #233735
    Brian Walton
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    For home games, they will sell more tickets when Waino is going for 199 (and 200) than if Joe Prospect was starting. At this point, winning the games and preparing for the future are secondary to $ and ensuring they don’t disrespect a team legend.

    Stealing an old line, they will finish in last place with him or without him…

    #233736
    Brian Walton
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    Wainwright OPS against by month:

    May .919
    June 1.059
    July .955
    August 1.053
    Sept (one start) 1.233

    To help put that into context, Shohei Ohtani is the MLB OPS leader this season at 1.066. When I think about Ohtani-level results on average from every hitter Wainwright faces, I am surprised his ERA is so “low”.

    #233737
    Ratsbuddy
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    The only way Wainwright gets to 200 wins is if they “Manufacture” two wins for him. And time is running out for that as well. They have a BIG lead in the 4th so they bring Waino in for a couple of innings and he qualifies for the win.

    Then again, time is running out period……

    #233743
    bicyclemike
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    After all Waino has done for the club, at this point they sort of owe it to him to see if somehow he can get a couple more Ws. But if we were a contenda and he had those same numbers, all sentiment would be out the window.

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    blingboy
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    RF L. Nootbaar L
    CF Tommy Edman S
    1B P. Goldschmidt R
    3B N. Arenado R
    C W. Contreras R
    LF T. O’Neill R
    2B Nolan Gorman L
    DH J. Walker R
    SS Masyn Winn R

    #233757
    jj-cf-stl
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    He didn’t find his pitches down until Santander, but located well after.

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    blingboy
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    Gorman out of the game. Possibly did something to his sore back running to 1st

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    jj-cf-stl
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    Contreras with a nice 2nd half. Playing hard.

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    blingboy
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    Palacios in to run for Gorman, so I assume Edman will move to 2B. Walker with a sac fly RBI.

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    blingboy
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    Contreras has sure surprised me with his second half.

    #233763
    jj-cf-stl
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    Palacios reminds me of Jon Jay. Plays a clean game, doesn’t find ways to fail.

    #233764
    jj-cf-stl
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    He’s locating where he needs to be. Avoid the mistakes, see where this goes.

    #233765
    jj-cf-stl
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    Got some D support, found a curveball…

    #233766
    jj-cf-stl
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    Noot deep in the strike zone, he may catch one right.

    #233767
    jj-cf-stl
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    Found a cutter too, and a timely ground ball. Picked up his D, he and Edman. He’s settled in. Gimme two more

    #233768
    ZTR
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    Does Wainwright have 1 more inning in him?

    #233769
    jj-cf-stl
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    Manage the damage. Let him be Oli

    #233770
    jj-cf-stl
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    mistake, get Frazier

    #233771
    jj-cf-stl
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    Yes!

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