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August 25, 2020 at 8:25 pm #136866
45 minutes after Game 1
RHP Johan Oviedo (0-0, 3.60) vs. Cody Ponce
FS Midwest // KMOX // WIJRAugust 27, 2020 at 8:29 am #13706014NyquisT
ParticipantI look for Oviedo to give the bullpen a rest by going into the later innings and giving us good chance to win the (night cap). He will need to keep his pitch count down and show the organization that he is ready for the majors. He is a starter and I hope that the Cards don’t tinker with that.
A solid start tonight may move him up on the depth chart. He has a chance to make the biggest splash of this very unusual season (roster-wise). Any thoughts on that?
August 27, 2020 at 8:38 am #137064
stlcard25ParticipantI agree with you, NyquisT. Brian mentioned on yesterday’s Danny Mac podcast that Oviedo and Ponce may be in a dance to see who gets to be that 6th starter in the upcoming busy stretch. I think Oviedo has a chance to be a #3 type starter and Ponce is basically a #5 due to his inconsistent pitch counts, so the Cards may be leaning toward giving Oviedo more run. I really hope he forces their hand with great pitching (and Ponce pitches well too).
August 27, 2020 at 8:43 am #137070I agree about Oviedo. He has an extremely bright future and while we thought it would start in 2021 he might as well take advantage of the situation now. I agree that he should develop into a solid #3 and be an innings eater for us for years to come. At least that is the plan.
August 27, 2020 at 5:22 pm #137163This game is scheduled to start at 5:45 p.m..
August 27, 2020 at 5:28 pm #137165
jj-cf-stlParticipantIt’s being said Oviedo is stretched out as well as anyone in the org, so lets hope he auditions well again for the SP5 role.
August 27, 2020 at 5:29 pm #1371661. Tommy Edman (S) 3B
2. Paul DeJong (R) SS
3. Paul Goldschmidt (R) 1B
4. Brad Miller (L) DH
5. Tyler O’Neill (R) LF
6. Yadier Molina (R) C
7. Dylan Carlson (S) RF
8. Max Schrock (L) 2B
9. Harrison Bader (R) CFAugust 27, 2020 at 5:31 pm #137168
jj-cf-stlParticipantEdman to 3B, DeJong to SS, Miller to DH
August 27, 2020 at 5:32 pm #137169stlcard25 said:
Brian mentioned on yesterday’s Danny Mac podcast that Oviedo and Ponce may be in a dance to see who gets to be that 6th starter in the upcoming busy stretch.
What I MEANT to say is that CMart is being added as the sixth, but with a good start tonight, Oviedo could jump to the front of the line of the extra starters for DHs (ahead of Woodford, Gomber, etc.) I also speculated that if Ponce cannot pitch deeper into games and Oviedo keeps looking good that Oviedo could take his job (as one of the regular six starters).
August 27, 2020 at 5:32 pm #137170
jj-cf-stlParticipantThe Mighty Bader will change our fortunes!
August 27, 2020 at 5:45 pm #137177
stlcard25ParticipantWhat I MEANT to say is that CMart is being added as the sixth, but with a good start tonight, Oviedo could jump to the front of the line of the extra starters for DHs (ahead of Woodford, Gomber, etc.) I also speculated that if Ponce cannot pitch deeper into games and Oviedo keeps looking good that Oviedo could take his job (as one of the regular six starters).
Sorry if I misconstrued what you said. I think I’m tracking with you on your meaning now. I agree that Ponce probably keeps his spot for now but Oviedo could make some inroads if he’s able to pitch deeper and more effectively into games. From this fan’s aesthetic view, Ponce’s games can really drag with high pitch counts and he doesn’t work super fast either.
August 27, 2020 at 5:50 pm #137178No problem, stlcard25. Conveniently, DannyMac had already extracted that section. (Click on the blue play button in the center of the photo for the one-minute clip.)
August 27, 2020 at 5:56 pm #137179
stlcard25ParticipantThe Pirates’ lineup tonight, by batting average: .260, .184, .204, .186, .127, .255, .132, .148, .167.
Needless to say, the Cards should have a shot to pitch well. More importantly, it would be nice for the offense to score 7+ to make things easier on them yet.
August 27, 2020 at 6:03 pm #137181
stlcard25ParticipantI see the Pirates are on the “we’re gonna get lucky double plays every time the Cards get a base runner” plan again tonight.
August 27, 2020 at 6:12 pm #137182Schrock just about got Goldy killed at 1B to end the second. All this shifting of positions is hurting the defense.
August 27, 2020 at 6:18 pm #137183
stlcard25ParticipantThe Cards start the 2nd with a walk and a single. Dylan Carlson is up and looking to do some damage. And…of course it’s another freaking double play.
August 27, 2020 at 6:33 pm #137184
stlcard25ParticipantThe Pirates and their team .180 average or whatever it is haven’t missed their chances tonight so far. A nearly insurmountable 2 run lead has been opened up.
August 27, 2020 at 6:55 pm #137185
stlcard25ParticipantOviedo is through 4, with two runs allowed. 0 strikeouts.
August 27, 2020 at 7:12 pm #137186
stlcard25ParticipantOviedo finishes the 5th with a K. That’s 2 runs allowed in 5 innings once again. Under normal circumstances, that should be enough to put him in line for the win.
August 27, 2020 at 7:28 pm #1371881982 willie
Participantwell our offense is struggling again with fundamental baseball. Last inning we get a lead off double and he doesnt move from there. 2 pop ups and a strike out. thats just unacceptable. A ground ball right side gets him over, a ground ball not at somebody probably gets him in. I know they dont teach top center hitting of the baseball but sometimes it needs to be done. pop ups there just dont get it done.
August 27, 2020 at 7:36 pm #137189This team needs a bat. Its been obvious for a long time.
Who is out there that is available?
r/Esteemed Rat
August 27, 2020 at 7:36 pm #1371901982 willie
Participantnice hit by miller but if we had even part of that the first game we might have won it.
August 27, 2020 at 7:40 pm #1371911982 willie
ParticipantWell not sure ratsbuddy. We got some guys who can hit but when we need that big hit like runners on third or moving guys over, they cant get it done. Miller right there is a big case and point.
August 27, 2020 at 7:46 pm #137192bccran
ParticipantI wonder if BW finally agrees that we have a problem with the offense in 2020 after Mo’s big risk.
August 27, 2020 at 7:51 pm #137193Offense is bad, bullpen not much better…just not a very good team….
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