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October 18, 2018 at 7:56 pm #72707
1967 St.Louis Cardinals
Nelson Briles – Died on Feb. 13th, 2005 at age 61 of a heart attack at a golf tournament in Orlando, Fl.
Steve Carlton – Age 73. Living in Durango, Colorado. Has a 150 tree apple orchard and pays little attention to MLB.
Jim Cosman – Died on Jan. 7th, 2013 in Roswell, GA at age 69. Jim was an executive in the Waste Management industry for 30 years and was survived by his wife, 4 children and 18 grandchildren.
Bob Gibson – Age 82 and living in suburban Omaha, Nebraska.
Joe Hoerner – Died October 4th, 1997 in Hermann, MO. at age 59 in a farming accident.
Dick Hughes – Age 80. Became a farmer after baseball and retired in 2000. Resides in Hot Springs, Arkansas. Has 2 sons (both engineers) and a daughter who is a schoolteacher.
Al Jackson – Age 82. Has a wife and 2 sons. Suffered a stroke in 2015 in Fort Pierce, FL.
Larry Jaster- Age 74. Resides in West Palm Beach, FL. Has 3 children.
Mike Torrez – Age 72. Has 1 daughter and 3 sons. Lives in Naperville, IL
Ray Washburn – Age 80. Lives in the State of Washington where he retired in 2003 from Bellevue College as it’s athletic director. He also had coached the baseball team for 12 seasons.
Ron Willis – Died November 21st, 1977 in Memphis, TN. at the tender age of 34 from a malignant brain tumor.
Hal Woodeshick – Died June 14th, 2009 in Houston, TX. at age 76 from a long duration illness.
Tim McCarver – Age 77.
Dave Ricketts – Died on July 13th, 2008 in St. Louis at age 73 from renal cancer.
Eddie Bressoud – Age 86 and still going strong.
Orlando Cepeda – Age 81. Suffered a stroke this past February after he fell down in a California golf course parking lot.
Phil Gagliano – Died December 20th, 2016 in Hollister, MO. at age 74.
Steve Huntz – Age 72.
Julian Javier – Age 82 from the DR. Has 5 children….son, Stan, an ex-MLer and another son is a cardiologist in Miami.
Dal Maxvill – Age 79.
Mike Shannon – Age 79.
Ed Spiezio – Age 76.
Lou Brock – Age 79. Presently winning his battle vs a blood cancer.
Curt Flood – Died January 20th, 1997 in Los Angeles at age 59 from throat cancer. Curt had 5 children.
Alex Johnson – Died February 28th, 2015 in Detroit at age 72 from prostate cancer.
Roger Maris – Died December 14th, 1985 in Houston at age 51 from Non-Hodgkin lymphoma.
Bobby Tolan – Age 72. His son, Robbie Tolan, had his baseball career end on December 31st, 2008, when he was shot in the liver by a Bellaire, Texas policeman, who was investigating a report of a stolen vehicle. The incident occurred in Robbie’s driveway where he was unarmed and driving his own vehicle.
Ted Savage – Age 82. Spent 25 years with the Cardinals where he retired in 2012 as director of target marketing in the Cardinals Care and community relations department.
October 18, 2018 at 8:34 pm #72714Good stuff, Pugs. Let’s give credit to the original source, please, unless you compiled this yourself!
October 18, 2018 at 9:01 pm #72717Indeed, Brian…..thanks mom & dad!
October 18, 2018 at 9:09 pm #72720Just surfing on the net for a little while. I thought it may be kind of neat to see where some of our players from years ago were. Obviously, this wasn’t too time consuming and in depth. I think Wikpedia was utilized most. If this is a no-no, I will.mot be offended by deleting this thread, Brian. Thanks!
October 18, 2018 at 10:47 pm #72723No problem at all. I just wanted to ensure that if you had copied it verbatim from somewhere that the original author/source received credit. Now that you explained, it is not an issue. Thanks for clarifying.
October 19, 2018 at 7:52 am #72726Eddie Bressoud is an answer to a pretty cool trivia question, but I will ask the question in reverse to see if anyone can get the other guy.
The question normally is asked naming the other guy, and the answer is then Bressoud. But we will go this way:
“Other than Eddie Bressoud, who is the only other guy to have played for both the New York Giants and New York Mets?”
October 19, 2018 at 8:57 am #7273614NyquisT
ParticipantSay hey.
1966- Hal Woodeshick relieved in 59 games… led the team. Whip=1.14. In ’67 pitched in his only WS and retired after that season from the Cardinals… last of his 8 clubs. A personal favorite.
I always liked the “Dodger killer”. 1966 vs. LAD 5-0 scores 2-0 2-0 4-0 4-0 2-0. I can remember that quite well.
October 19, 2018 at 9:58 am #72742Why didn’t you include “Red”?
October 19, 2018 at 11:30 am #72743Was only doing a player search, Carioca. Besides, my few words wouldn’t do to a bit of justice to a gentleman that books could and have easily been written about. And that’s why I didn’t really write anything about the Bob Gibsons and Tim McCarvers of the world. One must always consider their audience. In short, due to the high level of intelligence inherent to Cardinal fans, little explaining needs to be done on a Cardinals board. If this were a cubbies bored, this post would have had to rival “War & Peace” in longevity.
October 19, 2018 at 11:34 am #72744Pugs,
Let me know if you need any more info about past Cardinal players and teams. But next time give me a little heads up. I don’t like to just fire off the top of my head like I did with the info for your 1967 thread.Keep up the good work too!
r/Rat
October 19, 2018 at 12:33 pm #72746Lindy, Von, and Kerry McDaniel of Arnett, OK were all signed by the Cards for $50,000, each. Lindy had the best career beginning Sept. 2, 1955 for the Cards. He was the league leader in saves in 59 and 60. Had a 12-2, 1.29 ERA mark with 22 saves in 60.
Brother Von pitched a two-hit shutout in his first game, June 21, 1957. After a good rookie year, he had mechanical problems and never could throw strikes again. He tried a comeback as a third baseman, but played his last major league game, May 11, 1958. He died Aug. 20, 1995 in Lawton, OK of a heart attack.
Kerry was a first baseman who did pitch as an amateur. But, he never made it past the low minors.
Lindy is a minister in Lavon, TX.
October 19, 2018 at 4:11 pm #72751Thanks Rat. I think I may perpetrate another one of these threads again in the near future. And when I do, I’ll be seeking your input….that’s a double twist slam dunk certainty! I will probably pick a team that I remember next time. When this great ’67 squad was slamming the competition, I was slamming a rattle up and down like a fiend, so I have no recollection of them. Great input from BicycleMike, RememberDiz and Nyquist!
October 19, 2018 at 8:37 pm #72770RD’s 1.29 ERA for Lindy McDaniel in the 1960 looked too low, so I looked it up. I knew he had a great year that year, as 1961 was the first year I started collecting baseball cards as youth growing up in Wyoming, and Lindy’s stats shined brightly on his Post Cereal card. His ERA was actually 2.09. BR credits him with 27 saves, so they are a little more generous in that area than RD. Also, Lindy had a 12-4 record. Maybe RD’s numbers are solely for his relief work though, as he did start a couple of times.
Lindy liked the even decade years, as his top two WAR seasons were 1960 with us (6.0 per BR), and 1970 with the Yankees (4.2 per BR). In ’70 he was about as good as he was a decade before with us – 62 appearances covering 111 innings (loved it when relievers would routinely pitch more than one inning per appearance), a 2.01 ERA and 29 saves. McDaniel likely threw to Carl Sawatski at times in 1960, whose career started in 1950, and to Thurman Munson many times in 1970, whose career would have extended well into the ’80s if not for the tragic end to his life in 1979.
Munson was really good. We like Yadi a lot, but in over 400 more games played by Yadi over Thurm he still trails the Yankee star by some 8 WAR (per BR again). In fact, it will be tough for Yadi to “catch” Simba’s 45 WAR for us (over 50 for his career), which is one reason I still have Teddy as our all-time number 1 catcher. Simmons could really hit, and his defense was better than people gave him credit for while playing.
14Ny takes the prize on the trivia question. As I said, it is usually asked this way in some form: “Willie Mays is one of two players who played for both the New York Giants and Mets. Who is the other?” The answer as we know all too well now is Eddie Bressoud.
October 20, 2018 at 1:36 am #72777Thanks for compiling all that info, Pugs! I’m going to pass much of it along to my father, who’s old enough to regale me with stories of Stan, Red, and other Redbirds who played from the 40’s through the 60’s. (My fandom started around 1970. Unlucky me.)
October 20, 2018 at 11:30 am #7279614NyquisT
ParticipantRobert… “born too late.” (trivia: what girl-group rode that pop hit to the top of the charts in ’58?). The ’60s was a great time to be a Cards fan. Too many great players and memories to post about here. My favorite all-time Cards team was the 1964 version. At that time St.Louis went crazy about having a winner.
That all All-Star infield White-Javier-Groat-Boyer left other teams envious.October 20, 2018 at 1:39 pm #72798You’re welcome, Bobby! Looks like we both became Redbird fans at around the same time. What a first decade we had with suffering through all of those mediocre seasons. But for Bobby and me it was all we knew until 1982 finally rolled along. Back in the 70’s, I would have done anything to watch Cardinal games as I pleased. Back then it was a thrill to be able to catch them once or twice a year on the Saturday Game of the Week and of course on WGN whenever we played the cubbies. But then every time the cubbies whacked a homer you would have to endure Jack Brickhouse and Lou Boudreau not only shouting “HEY HEY HOLY MACKEREL”, but then seeing it in writing plastered all over your tv screen. I recall as a kid carefully cutting black and white photos from the Janesville Gazette on those rare occasions when a Cardinal was featured. Reflecting back, I think that lack of exposure only enhanced the allure and love I had for our Cardinals.
Great stuff, BicycleMike!! One day you need to write a book.
August 27, 2019 at 12:58 pm #103958Pugsley! How’s a boy? I searched for SCOUT only a week ago as I was booted off of GRB (bad mouthing Carp) and my regular forum is dying a slow death, but came up with nadda.
I did a general search for Card foums, clicked on this one and immediatly recognized the US map logo with the star over St. Louis from somewhere.
To my astonishment Google had retained my account and I’m still a member here! I saw several names I remember, good to be back.
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