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Oakland A’s player is the first MLB player to take a knee during the Nat’l Anthem. I hope this misguided expression of so-called “free speech” doesn’t spread in baseball. If any Cards do this, I’m done with the team and MLB. Play ball, not politics.
Many MLB teams already have attendance problems. This can only make matters worse. The NFL is crumbling. Is MLB next?
The NFL has a lot more other problems than players expressing their 1st Amendment rights: Domestic violence, CTE, oversaturation, etc.
Football also has further to fall than baseball.
I honestly don’t care. When everyone is protesting everybody else, how many of them actually mean anything?
At some point people either settle down and accept that others are different or we have a guerilla style civil war — worse than we do now.
(In no particular order) White people can’t go safely into certain places at night (native reservations and certain urban areas). Blacks (rightly) feel that things havent changed enough. Mexicans are worried about themselves or their family being deported. And don’t get my wife started on women’s issues or this will never end.
We need a voice that gets all of these groups to shut up for five seconds and realize that we all got problems. While making them feel good about it.
Haven’t seen a politician who comes close to that one in my lifetime (I’m 39).
I won’t say much more… This topic gets too heated.
I’m not a Jerry Jones fan, but I’m rather partial re his message to Cowboy players about standing during the playing of the national anthem.
Our dear president has said far worse things regarding vaginas and other things.
I am in agreement with you Nooner.
What our President says, if inappropriate, doesn’t make it right. The same goes for any President in history.
Because I don’t care about propriety and have better things to think about it is sad to use a word that is in the dictionary?
Live a life where your family cares more about outward appearances than anything else then tell me how sad it is.
Here is a big hint: for someone who tries to throw around the “we all make mistakes” you sure jumped down my throat for something petty. Grow up.
Grow up because I prefer decency?
I would suggest that you refrain from your judgments and rudeness.
Put some years on before you tell a person many years your senior to grow up.Brian – if you’re monitoring this thread would you please explain to this fine gentleman the etiquette required to post here? That disgusting and childish little fbombs aren’t allowed. Thanks very much.
By Jenifer Langosch / MLB.com | @LangoschMLB | + 70 COMMENTS
PITTSBURGH — A day after A’s rookie Bruce Maxwell took a knee during the national anthem, Cardinals manager Mike Matheny stated that he would support a player who chose to exercise freedom of expression in such a way.Lol.. Decency by whose defintion?
I find your selective use of “everyone makes mistakes” to be positively rude and indecent and to be a juvenile effort at silencing a voice that makes you look like a fool.
P.s. my bachelors in technical writing says that vulgarity when used for a purpose to make a point is art, not indecency.
Whether direct or suggested by special characters or blanks or what have you – profanity is against forum rules. This topic is already charged enough and the phrase in question was unnecessary for the discussion, so it has been removed.
On a general point, I can see that people have been quite angry at each other this weekend and hope the new week will lead to greater civility.
Fair enough…
Truth is im not angry. I just won’t back down to that form of hypocrisy. Juvenile is the nicest word I have.
Moving on.
Thank you, Brian. I do apologize for the heated discussions. Some of us just get very tired of the Matheny bashing without a discussion of strengths that go along with the weaknesses. A balanced discussion supported with data. I’ll do my best to refrain from
confontations with anti Matheny posters in the future.Some of us get tired of the blind homerism and the failure of others to look at provided analysis. But I digress…
I think it is unfortunate when sports get mixed up with politics but it happens from time to time. I, myself, will always stand for the anthem but I respect the rights of those who choose not to.
I see the anthem as representing the nation’s principles and ideals. When you show respect, you are honoring the principles that the nation was founded upon.
Unfortunately we are a nation of people, and people are flawed. The protests seem to be aimed at society’s injustices, and not the nation’s principles. In that way, there is a disconnect between where these protests are focused, and where they should be focused. What needs to happen is for these high profile members of society to get into their communities, and be a conduit to conversations between the community and those in power in order to make the positive changes that are needed. That would be a far more powerful course of action than simply taking a knee at a sporting event.
On a national level, I would like more efforts made at finding common ground and less at fanning the flames of discontent. In reading about the Detroit riots of 1967, members of the Detroit Tigers did just that. Willie Horton went out into the streets in his Tigers uniform and called for calm, and urged people to go home and to stop destroying their city.
On a personal level, I would never be in any position to protest the anthem, having never been denied opportunities unless I created those barriers myself by being a knucklehead. I cannot speak for those who have been denied an opportunity based on something other than character and credentials. But if we look back on history someday, and these “taking a knee” demonstrations helped start effective communication, then maybe they are worthwhile.
The problem some of us have who have served, is that disrespecting the anthem is one thing, but disrespecting the flag is another. When the anthem is played, all in attendance are supposed to remove their hats, put their hands over their hearts, and face the flag. If the flag comes into the picture in the anthem scenario, it changes things for some of us. Just our personal opinion.
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