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Although we won a see-saw contest last night, as long as Chicago and Milwaukee win there is nothing we can do to get back in the hunt.
We will no doubt talk a lot more about this after the season ends, but our season was sabotaged primarily due to the offense not performing as planned (or hoped), and the bullpen struggling, especially in the first half.
On offense, two guys stand out as the culprits. First, Matt Carpenter was not able to provide the pop needed of a number three hitter, and eventually lost his job in that role and moved back to lead off, where at least he got on base via the walk enough to justify hitting at that spot. Second, Steven Piscotty was a major disappointment, although Tommy Pham finally stayed healthy and showed what he can do, offsetting Picotty’s weak bat. Piscotty is not exactly a gazelle in the outfield either. In fact, Pham is better in all phases of the game.
In the bullpen, no one excelled at closer for a significant portion of the season, and the big off-season acquisition of Brett Cecil was major big disappointment. Anyone watching the Cardinals would much rather see Lyons or Sherriff in there at crunch time, than Cecil.
Anyway, we’ll have many words from many posters about this topic as Summer turns to Fall. As it looks right now, I would like to see the Cleveland Indians finish the job and win their first championship since 1948, which be only the third world title in their long history. If they end up playing the Dodgers in the Series, it will be the same two teams that battled when Cleveland won it’s first championship back in 1920.
there is a lot we can do to get back in the hunt… win games…
we have 3 head to head against the Brewers
4 against the Cubs…
ROckies have to keep winnign too…
none of those teams are going to win the rest of their games… we probably wont either…
it is a long shot, but all we have to do is keep winning games…if we stop doing that…then we have no chance…which is pretty obvious…but if we keep winning we still have a shot..
If the Rox lose 3 in a row..the Wild card is up for grabs..if the cubs lose 3 the Central is up for grabs.. really..there are abuot 5 games before the Cubs and Brewers series…if we can win those and the Rox or the Cubs can go 2-3 we are still in it…and that’s without craziness happening..
yeah we dont control our destiny right now… but that doesnt mean we dont have a chance…and it isnt even that big of a mathematical impossibility…it is tight…losses are bigger right now…but we arent close YETto being eliminated by anything approaching winning out and everyone else losing out…
People have been trying to find reasons all year to give up on this team…from the beginning of they ear all the way through every up and down… just give up already if you are tired of it… I wait all winter to watch baseball…and I am going to take advantage of every game i get…and root on my team all the way the end…and HOPE for the best and not give up on them…and even whne/if they are eliminated i will watch any other games with excitement too..because i look forward so much to baseball and not having it sucks…so i will enjoy what i get….not because i want to see wins and championships but because i love Cardinals baseball….
give up, move on if you want…that is all on whomever…and everyone has their own reasons to do so or not…that is on them… but giving up now if you have been in on them all year seems odd since this has been how they have been all year…
we did win last night…in tough grind it out clutch game…where the veterans bailed out the team more than the youngsters…
i look forward as much or more than most people but i dont hate this team, i think it is an odd team, and not what anyone from management or the players or media or US anticipated…. but it happened…and they are still in it whether you like HOW much they are in it or not…
i know fans of other teams who hate Cardinals fans not because they hate the Cardinals..but they hate the fans because they believe they are spoiled….winning seasons are a big deal to LOTS of clubs…2nd and 3rd place finishes are big things to feel good about.. having a CHANCE even a small one warrants HUGE excitement…having a Gold Glove, HOFer who is playing well would be a thing to cherish and cheer for instead of finding ways to denigrate him or push him out the door…and i have to agree with those fans… we ARE spoiled…
true our expectations are higher…but you dont have to have high expectations without appreciating what you have in front of you….many people in their frustration with results forget the value of what this team and organization has achieved right now…THIS team is not terrible…it is basically a top 10 team in baseball, which means they might miss out on the playoffs…but it doesnt make them NOT a top 10 team…and DEFINITELY not a terrible team by any standards…
yeah we have some issues…but more than half the league woudl LOVE to be in our position right now…
do i want the Cardinals to win…yep…do i like it when they lose? nope…do i get more upset abuot stupid thigns that happen than i should? yep….but why does that frustration have to lead to stop watching or giving up on this team or talking about the players in such a way that makes them come across as worthless….this is a good team…not as good as we want..or what we or anyone expected…but they are going to end up a top team regardless of the playoffs…success isnt black or white…it’s gray…baseball fans of all types of fans should know this and embrace it..
give up…dont giver up…yell and scream or dont…that’s all on whomever…but it doesn’t hurt to take a step back and look at the grand scheme of the league and baseball to get your bearings…
this is NOT in response to any one post or poster…
It all depends on whether you see the glass as 6% full or 94% empty! 😉
Personally, I would not feel good about a third-place finish in a five-team division. That is not being spoiled, but recognizing the team again fell short of expectations.
Giants have a 3-0 lead on Colorado in the 5th. We cold be just 2.5 games out of the wild card at days end if the “cards” fall right.
r/Rat
4-0 San Francisco the final. We can inch closer, to 2.5 games with a win tonight. Milwaukee can tie with a win tonight.
r/Rat
Bottom of the 4th, Cards up now 5-0 after DeJong and Fowler hit HR’s, Cubs losing 4-0 in the bottom of the 4th to the Rays…
8-2 Cards in the last of the 6th. Could have been worse. Fowler lined out and then DeJong struck out with the bases loaded.
Lets hope the bullpen can hang on in this one. Colorado lost, the Cubs are way behind, and the Brewers trail 3-2 in the 6th.
r/Rat
Brewers had a 4-3 lead in the 8th, but lost 6-4 as their closer Knebel gave up a two-run homer in the 9th. So Cubs, Brewers and Rockies all lost.
Why does this team ( with help from others) keep giving me hope? I know they will just disappoint me in the end.
if the Rockies lose hold of that 2nd wild card and us with 3 still against the Brewers …we could once again control our own destiny… i’d be fine with the BRewers aND the Rox freefalling to help, but the Rox losing is the big deal right now…without that nor us or Brewers have a shot
Rox get Padres and Marlins then LAD
Brewers get Cubs, Reds, Cardinals
Cardinals get Bucs, Cubs, Brewers
Cubs…though they have a cushion….get Brewers, Cardinals, RedsReds are our friends right now (after tonight)
Rox have seemingly easy games…but they are definitely scuffling…thsoe last 3 against the LAD might not be hard either as LAD has nothign to really play for and might want to rest up…
Cubs’ cushion is good, but they could lose hold really quick by losing to the Brewers which they have done very recently…though they seem to be trending up unfortunately…if they go cold the next 7 tough games against us and the brewers…they may have to fight to get in with those Reds games…
the fact that the Brewers and Cardinals finish the year against each other helps the Cubs for the division even if they scuffle over the next 7there are 11 to go finish the series against reds tonight…but then 3 series…Wild Card is within ONE series…
the division is 5 games for us and 3.5 for the Brewers…so this weekend sewt with BRewers and Cubs should be crazy….Brewers see it as their last shot at the division and the Cubs probably feel that too…btu not as much as the BRewers i’d think…
Cards have a nice chance to win tonight…then hopefully deal with a Bucs team that seems to have lost it’s fight… a sweep woudl be great…but 2 of 3 would still be ok..
this is about as tight as it can get folks….and very exciting…so many scenarios
We might have a little clearer picture after this weekend, when the Cubs and Brewers finish up their four head-to-head match ups.
St. Louis is in an interesting spot, with the schedule having us at home for four against Chicago, and three against Milwaukee to wind things up. We most likely will impact the wild card, whether us playing to be there, or playing the spoiler role.
The key (obviously), is to keep winning and see what happens. After our game last night I switched over and watched the end of the Bucs/Brewers. Frazier cranked a walk-off to win it. Pittsburgh showed some heart, so they may be tough this weekend.
According to BP, the Cards’ playoff odds are up to 13.6 percent this morning, or about a one in seven chance.
Bucs will definitely not roll over…neither will the Reds tonight… we will have to earn any chance we might get to make the playoffs
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