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According to the reports, both the Cardinals and Giants have proposals on the table that the Marlins will accept. So what’s the hold up? Is it that Stanton just can’t make up his mind? That seems pretty unlikely given that he has had weeks to think about it. My guess is that he doesn’t want to go to either place. And if that’s the case, the Marlins ownership and front office must be going ballistic.
If the Cardinals can get Yelich or Ozuna from the Marlins, then get Calome and Longoria from the Rays, they will have as good a chance as any to win their division.
The holdup is that Stanton is waiting for the Dodgers to get involved. That is what this has been about from the get go. I think things will be resolved by either the end of this week or at the winter meetings next week.
I would prefer to have Yelich than Ozuna. He is much more athletic and just now starting to reach his potential.
I like the idea of a veteran backup catcher also. Seeing Kelly just sitting there on the bench drives me crazy. He either needs to go back to Memphis or include him in a big trade.
You are correct he is not the big bat but if we have to take him in order to get Archer and Colome then I would do it in a heartbeat. The other big bat could be Cozart for SS (move DeJong to 2B), Cargo for RF, or Hosmer for 1B.
This is what I’ve been saying all along. If we don’t get him you really can’t blame the front office. We have pushed all of our chips in but he apparently doesn’t want to play here.
If he ends up going to the Cubs I am going to be sick. That would give them yet another superstar at basically the league minimum.
I like the idea of going after Colome and Archer, not sure about Longoria though. If so we would still need another big bat.
I know all about Jim Bowden. He now lives in Miami and he is well connected. He is also not the only “insider” saying this.
Depending on where Carp ends up it might be a good idea to sign Adams to platoon at 1B with Martinez.
For the fourth week in a row Jim Bowden on MLB Front Office predicted Stanton to the Dodgers. This time though he said the Plan B would be the Giants. He doesn’t see him staying in Miami or going to St. Louis.
Hey, don’t shoot the messenger.
He doesn’t want to play for a loser so staying in Miami to be on the very worst team in all of baseball prob doesn’t sit well with him…he can be traded to a winner and play for 3 years and then opt out and go to Dodgers if he wants…
Your love affair with him going to the dodgers is comical at best.
I’m only passing along what I’ve read and heard multiple times by multiple people. I don’t think we should get our hopes up and the team better have a solid Plan B. All of these proposed trade scenarios mean nothing if he doesn’t want to play here.
The Dodgers are already over the luxury tax. It would cost them 50M for 2018 alone to acquire Stanton. Everybody has limitations whether they are aware of those limitations, or not.
The Dodgers have at least $60M coming off the books after 2018 so if they are really worried about the luxury tax they could tell Stanton to sit tight one more year and they will trade for him next winter.
Oh gscottar you have talked to Stanton personally?
If not stop with the garbage of him going to dodgers or staying in Miami and posting it as facts!
Because lets face it if they want a big power bat, Staton is plan A, B C and D!
I’ve heard too many insiders state what his preferences are. I suppose he could pull a Verlander and change his mind at the last minute but I wouldn’t count on it.
It doesn’t matter if the Cards want Stanton or not. It doesn’t matter if the Marlins like what the Cards are offering. Stanton has all of the leverage here.
He could easily stay in Miami one more year and get traded to the Dodgers next winter. They have at least $60M coming off of the books after next season.
Also, because of the lower cost of Yelich, he is going to cost MUCH more in prospects to obtain from Miami than Stanton or even Ozuna.
And an outfield of Pham, Yelich and O’Neill with Piscotty as a 4th OF wouldn’t be bad…
I don’t think Fowler is going anywhere unfortunately.
I would think that some of the negotiation on Stanton’s behalf would depend on the trade details and how that affects the teams involved. In other words, if the team trading for him gives up so much that they are a marginal playoff team for the next few years, how does that help him decide to go there. Also, if that team restocks the Marlins and they now become a formidable opponent, he has another obstacle to win a WS. It is in his best interest to be traded for the smallest package possible. Although, he MAY feel an obligation to make sure the Marlins are in a good place for the future.
I don’t see Miami contending for anything for several years. They are about to be a major dumpster fire. Hemorrhaging money, depleted farm system, depressed fan base, some untradeable contracts, about to gut their core. They are headed for last place for years.
I posted a couple of comments in the Trade thread and should have posted them here. I will re-post them now.
Being able to provide the best deal to the Marlins is only half of the battle. They then have to persuade Stanton to waive the NTC to come here. Good luck with that. Jim Bowden has stated three weeks in a row on MLB Front Office that he thinks Stanton will either go the Dodgers or stay in Miami because those are the two places he wants to live. Jim Duquette predicts Stanton to the Cards by the way.
I hear what you are saying but we only have so much control in this. We could offer Miami Reyes, Weaver, Alcantara, Hudson, Kelly, Grichuk, Piscotty, and Diaz, but if Stanton doesn’t want to come here then it doesn’t matter.
