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Now I recall why I kept working instead of retiring.
David Letterman at GABP watching the @Reds game ?? pic.twitter.com/uErBPmUvd7
— FOX Sports Ohio (@FOXSportsOH) August 6, 2017
It is unfortunate that you consider joining a discussion in a public forum “piling on”. It would not have happened had you answered the original question, which you still have not.
Here is my conclusion from your remarks.
Do not question authority. Give the manager and front office the benefit when the numbers back them and disavow the numbers when it does not support them.
Of course, you are entitled to your view, just as it is for others to disagree.
Tui survives – at least for another day. With Wainwright’s activation, Kevin Siegrist was placed on the DL with left arm used-up-itis, or if you prefer, forearm tendinitis.
I am confused. Is Jose Martinez the cleanup hitter or the guy to be optioned to Memphis when Fowler returns next week? If there was ever an example of how badly this roster is constructed, this is it.
#STLCards vs. Cincinnati (8/6):
Carpenter 1B
Pham CF
DeJong SS
J. Martinez LF
Molina C
Wong 2B
Grichuk RF
G. Garcia 3B
Wainwright P— St. Louis Cardinals (@Cardinals) August 6, 2017
I don’t get the revelation here. There are very clear statistics about the small percent of minor leaguers who reach the majors. There may not be 50 minor leaguers in the system who will ever reach MLB. Since we don’t know who they are until after the fact, we have to assess probabilities. By definition, some will be right and some will be wrong.
I accept prospect lists for what they are – the best point-in-time assessments from people who make their living scouting and watching ball players – at least in the case of BA and MLB. No one should expect perfection.
Folks, you many notice two changes this morning. First is that pagination is now working. The reason why is the second change – no nesting of replies. It turns out that though it is not well documented, the two are mutually exclusive in this software. By shutting off nesting of comments, paging started working.
Unless there is a high level of disagreement, I plan to leave it this way. In fact, had I known of this tradeoff, the forum would have been set up this way from the very start.
Thank you to the readers who brought this to my attention.
I don’t know that trading Kelly would become a Steve Carlton-magnitude mistake, but my fear is that to placate Molina, they may double down on bad decisions that will be regretted for a long time. How else can they deal with this situation for three more years? That is an eternity.
Well, I was wrong. Reds starter hit Wong in the head and the seventh inning went out of control for them. Cards up 4-1 with two outs.
BA: Mejia #18, Kelly 51
MLB: Mejia #16, Kelly 36They are both elite prospects, but not all that close in ranking, except on a Cardinals board. 😉
Lynn doing his thing through six, but the offense is not giving the pen much room to work. We’ve all seen this script before.
Since you asked, I know nothing about Francisco Mejia’s defense, but at age 21, he has a .900 OPS at Double-A. Over a year older, Kelly had a .834 mark at AAA. His OPS last year at Springfield at the same level and age as Mejia is at now was .740.
So those who call Kelly the top catching prospect in the minors disagree with MLB and BA, who favor Cleveland’s Mejia. I can understand why the relative rankings of the two are as they are.
Mr. Kelly is wise beyond his years.
Carson Kelly on his pregame work with Yadier Molina and Mike Matheny: "It was great to get insight from both of them." #STLCards pic.twitter.com/zDKFcQrt2R
— FOX Sports Midwest (@FSMidwest) August 5, 2017
In some interesting timing, national writer Joe Sheehan, a friend of mine (under full disclosure), just tweeted this about the manager, in reference to Wacha’s infamous return in the post-season against the Giants. But, hey, it was Wacha’s fault, right?
The one actionable problem is the manager, who should have been fired before Travis Ishikawa touched home plate. https://t.co/NAER4Bv7dZ
— Joe Sheehan (@joe_sheehan) August 6, 2017
Not pushing your buttons. Just having a good discussion.
I have always said that I do not know the other systems well enough to objectively place the Cardinals. Seeing guys once or twice (or in most cases, never) so primarily doing rankings from stat sheets and mining what others say is not my thing. I appreciate how hard it would be, though.
I generally try to not over-rate the guys in the organization I follow. Generally, the Cards don’t seem to rank as well nationally because they often lack top-tier talent. Unfortunately, the MLB club is suffering from that very problem right now. If teams had to play a 50-man roster, the Cards might always be competitive.
While I appreciate the effort BobReed put into his prospect ranking work last off-season, when all was said and done, it was the work of a Cardinals fan and I felt it reflected that bias. I came to that conclusion by using the scouting data from the source he referenced, John Sickels.
Regarding Kelly, he is ranked #36 nationally by MLB and #51 by BA. What is wrong with that?
No reason to be concerned, right?
Pre-game note – if #STLCards lose tonight, it will be first time they have lost 6 consecutive games in same year in Cincinnati since 1926.
— Rob Rains (@RobRains) August 5, 2017
bccran, what about the apparent inconsistency of citing team won-loss record in support of the manager in the past, but now disavowing any connection when the W-L record has gone south?
Wagner Mateo and Roberto De La Cruz were also international bonus babies. All that means is three years ago, Atlanta saw enough in a 15 or 16 year old to risk a lot of money on him. To date, he has not lived up to it.
Regarding Kelly, you gloss over the defensive side. Fielding percentage is not the be-all, end-all, but Yepez’ fielding percentage is worse than Kelly’s the year before they took Kelly off third. Scouts I have spoken with believe Yepez’ only hope defensively is first base, but he is not yet an average defender there, either. Being a first baseman only would put even more pressure on him to hit.
No offense taken, but I disagree. Here are the Cardinals’ recent second-rounders. I would not trade the worst of them for Yepez. In the reports I have seen, his best position on defense is DH. His OPS at Peoria is .715, which is below his career mark of .733. Yes, he is young so we will see. Maybe he will become a true prospect, but I don’t see him as one now.
Connor Jones
Bryce Denton
Ronnie Williams
Andrew Morales
Oscar Mercado
Carson Kelly
Charlie Tilson