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14NyquisTParticipant
Oh boy… here we go. Wainwright is not a quicker healing, young man. Hamstring injuries linger.
14NyquisTParticipantBW…. thanks for the clarification.
14NyquisTParticipantYeah, really and truly.
I went through all 29 teams to see if any one of them could make good use of a young catcher MLB-ready. Seattle is the one that stood out. Not a very deep catching corps now, and no one in the “Pipeline”.
14NyquisTParticipantFrom BB Reference:
STEVE MURA
Traded by the San Diego Padres with a player to be named later and Ozzie Smith to the St. Louis Cardinals for a player to be named later, Sixto Lezcano and Garry Templeton. The San Diego Padres sent Al Olmsted (February 19, 1982) to the St. Louis Cardinals to complete the trade.
The St. Louis Cardinals sent Luis DeLeon (February 19, 1982) to the San Diego Padres to complete the trade.I don’t remember that trade being so complex. I just remember Templeton for OSmith.
14NyquisTParticipantIt seems that ST always produces a mirage or two, and that isn’t limited to the Cardinals.
ps. I’m learning that baseball fans are becoming more and more fickle everyday. Mayers is getting a lot of support this March. From October to February there were many calling for him to be dropped from the 40-man roster. That one start two years ago put him in the fan’s doghouse…. now he’s having rose petals dropped at his feet. Playing well brings about such cases.
14NyquisTParticipantPutting Hicks up against that lineup isn’t nice, but it will be telling.
14NyquisTParticipantMy wife and I played that game when we were younger. I was always scissors and she was always paper. After 40 years I still go with scissors but now she’s rock. Wink, wink…. you younger guys will learn that that’s the solution for marital bliss. 🙁
March 25, 2018 at 10:11 am in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2017-2018 #4631814NyquisTParticipantI read an article by J.Ortiz of USA TODAY saying that the Bumgarner’s injury will prompt the Giant’s FO to disband their aging core players (except Posey). They could be looking for young pitchers like Archer and Nola to start a rebuild. He mentions Belt, Crawford, Pence, Panik, McCutchen and also Cuerto as trade chips by July. “…. the club was facing some major changes come 2019. Bumgarner’s injury has accelerated that clock.”
The story surprised me because its difficult for me to imagine that one player going to the DL could have such an effect on a team. Talk about fragility. Certainly something to think about.
14NyquisTParticipantBryce Denton (LF) – 2-for-4, R, 2B, RBI – His stock has fallen considerably due to inconsistency through three pro seasons. Is this the year he breaks out?
-B.Walton in yesterday’s MiLB recap.
That break out question led me to re-visit Denton’s progress since he has been placed on the back burner by many following the prospect rankings. He dropped down to TCN’s #42 spot due to his early struggles in ’15 at GCL-Cards and mediocre production since. Last season at State College he was getting some traction hitting .268 and then fell back to .157 in 70ABs after a promotion to Peoria. His production wasn’t quite matching his potential.
Denton was a H.S. teenager drafted in 2nd rd. of the ’15 draft as a 3rd baseman. His first two seasons at third were not pretty committing 21 errors at Johnson City in ’16. That led to a move to the OF in ’17, first in LF then finishing the season in RF.
Most likely the organization will continue to challenge him and an ’18 opening day spot at Peoria is next up for him. The MWL is generally not a spot for 20 year olds but Denton has already played on 4 teams in his first 3 pro seasons and he should be up to it.
Likely he’ll be placed with Hurst(#37) and Brandon Benson in the Chiefs OF, which might also include Pinder(#34). Maybe the long-season will push Denton to get his rear in gear and finally achieve that break out year.
14NyquisTParticipantFrom the P-D.
The Cardinals are in trouble if Molina goes down, even with the promising Carson Kelly as their catcher in waiting at Memphis. The former infielder has shown a strong arm and has established rapport with pitchers. Clearly, he didn’t stay sharp last year as a part-time player with only 69 at-bats in 34 games in which he batted .174 with just one homer.
The 3 year deal Molina was handed is already showing signs of poor planning by the cowards in the FO.
14NyquisTParticipantGood pickup BW….. I’m going off my stupid diet plan. Already contacted my nutrisionalist.(sp)
14NyquisTParticipantWhat is the message he’s sending to Kelly? Is it something other than what Kelly has already surmised?
14NyquisTParticipantI don’t know when the suspension was determined but since Pearce was told not to report to camp it was probably some time ago. It may be the reason the FO was not willing to deal more starting prospects after Alcantara and Gallen were moved.
I believe that if there is another failing of a drug test, that’s it for Pearce. It ready is tragic since Pearce was pitching so well and coming into his own. The same death sentence applies to Reyes. I hope that that day never comes. Between the suspension, surgery recovery time and other injuries, Reyes’ contribution to the club has been disrupted. When he becomes 100%, I’m hoping we get what we have expected of AR for two years.
14NyquisTParticipantOur #7-8-9 selections were traded leaving some possible prospects to move upward into those slots, Knizner-JAGarcia-Arozarena-Gomber-Munoz. Others will automatically will move up due to the void.
14NyquisTParticipantThis is not good news. Pham has always been a streaky hitter… long streaks, good and bad. The consequences of him not being able to see pitches and having to go to the bench or DL will cause changes that will effect the team’s strategies. Many folks planned to have Pham repeat his ’17 numbers and hold down CF.
14NyquisTParticipantBooyah, Zach Rymer with Bleacher Reports along with Picota projections agree with you regarding the Cards just missing the post-season. BUT they still have to play the games.
************************************************************************St. Louis Cardinals
2017: 83-79
PECOTA 2018: 85-77
The Cardinals won 83 games last year despite not really being good at anything. That should change at least on the offensive front in 2018. Assuming he can pick up where he left off after a career-best 2017, Marcell Ozuna will be the big slugger the Redbirds were missing.
The real question is how the Cardinals will perform on the mound. The upside of guys like Carlos Martinez, Michael Wacha, Luke Weaver and Alex Reyes (who should return from Tommy John surgery in May) is a reason to hope for the best. Even so, this is a list of names that only covers a fraction of the entire ensemble. That’s a reason for unease.
Prediction: 84-78
14NyquisTParticipantAdding this coach is an all win situation. What an opportunity for the four individuals! They should pay the organization to get their “dream job”. Good luck to all of them.
ps. Brian, very good piece… thanks for passing it along.
14NyquisTParticipanthttps://www.mlb.com/news/yairo-munoz-makes-cardinals-opening-day-roster/c-269473436
These moves were becoming more apparent this past week so they shouldn’t come as a surprise. I think the roster is at 27.
14NyquisTParticipantJosh McDonald from Redbird Rants makes some amusing and BOLD predictions for the ’18 Cards. I find it strange that he still doesn’t predict a division crown if these very positive looks in a crystal ball come to fruition.
If you like Wainwright/Ozuna/Leone/Carpenter/Reyes/JMartinez and favor a major July roster addition, you’ll like reading this.
https://redbirdrants.com/2018/03/22/st-louis-cardinals-10-bold-predictions-2018/
14NyquisTParticipantBaseball has taken a few turns on bullpens. For most of its history, baseball used bullpens as a last-ditch landing spot for failed starters and nothing more. In a movement popularized by Tony LaRussa, teams began to distribute more innings and more talented pitchers into the bullpen. With the popularization of advanced stats in the early 21st century, bullpens became unfashionable as the sheer math of “relievers pitch less and therefore matter less” became the popular wisdom. But as bullpen usage has increased, relievers need to be capable of pitching multiple games in a row, even as the size of bullpens has increased.
John Fleming from VEB sums up the role of the bullpen in the game of today. Starters go less innings (pitch counts) and relievers are needed to cover those innings. More managers have more data and use it to use the righty-lefty switch at increasingly rate. The skippers never want to run out of relief arms and probably have nightmares about that happening. They also must have a plan in close games to have arms ready for extra inning affairs. 8 relievers may be here to stay for a while until or unless the game morphs.
14NyquisTParticipantI’m not sure just what Matheny is saying here. No other team has two Cs so highly ranked in their organization. Kelly will have to have a very solid season to stay ahead of Knizner.
Matheny mentioned power-hitting catcher Andrew Knizner as one young player who has improved his stock. He will be at either Class AA Springfield or Class AAA Memphis.
“As we all know,” said Matheny, “he’s not making the team.
“But he’s improved so much defensively that I still have him here to catch. His bat plays. And both of those have combined to put him in a different spot than I had anticipated him being in when this spring started.
“A couple of times he’s hit high velocity pitches at the top of the (strike) zone that a lot of guys would have had trouble getting to. And he was smashing them.
“He figures to have a big season. I followed the (Arizona) fall league stats and you don’t hit .340 or .350 every day without knowing what you’re doing. And they were hitting him third, fourth or fifth every day.”
Knizner, 23, hit .358 with three homers and 12 runs batted in for 17 games in the fall league after batting a combined .302 with 12 homers and Class A Peoria and Class AA Springfield last year.
14NyquisTParticipantI was stunned to hear that Jorge Rodriguez passed away in the DR from complications due to bone cancer. The State College page on MLB.com “Affiliates” has a story on this yet another tragedy for the organization. He leaves behind a wife and son.
In the last 10 years or so, too many members of the Cardinals’ family have left the organization in mourning. Very sad.
14NyquisTParticipantHave I missed any news about Pearce? He was the organization-wide pitcher of the month in May and a post season PCL All-Star.
14NyquisTParticipantI’m thinking now that Munoz will go north with the team. I hope he can continue to produce as he is getting chances to play many different positions. Also, the guy can flat out hit.
That being the case, Bader will join the Memphis OF that can rival a few of the outfields that MLB teams run out there.
March 22, 2018 at 10:59 am in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2017-2018 #4603314NyquisTParticipantThere are no attacks here…. we’re all Cardinal fans.
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